nikola tesla got everything stolen on the boat, he arrived with four cents in his pocket. elon musk came from canada at the age of 17 and worked on farms and in a boiler room to put himself through school. and most of them -- this is an interesting thing, a lot of them had far less formal education than you would expect given their fields, and even the ones that had education, a lot of them had a conflicted relationship with education. so if we start at the top, elon musk, he had -- has two undergraduate degrees, but he says he never went to class, he just showed up to take the exams. he was only interested in classes he thought were relevant to his purpose. he didn't think he should have to take the other classes, so those annoyed him. marie curie, i'm going to leave her out. she's the exception here. but nikola tesla was actually a brilliant student but became addicted to gambling and dropped out of school. steve jobs, you know, dropped out of school but said it was the best thing that ever happened to him because he stayed on campus and started taking the classes he wan