nikole hannah-jones is the award winning author of the 1619 project, there is a lot more where that camekole hannah-jones after our show, ends in a few days will be able to stream the extended cut of this discussion, exclusively on peacock. for, now that doesn't, fermi thank you for, watching all see right early tomorrow morning, i'll be joined by the singular kimberly crenshaw, the -- hutu and the term intersectionality, and gave us the language to describe the truth of identity. her work specifically has been targeted -- from the college girls and five -- be sure to join me by the, way also after president biden's state of the union address on tuesday night, for postgame coverage with my good friend stephanie ruhle, that's from midnight to a am eastern, stay right where you, are picks up our news coverage right now. e right now. >> good morning and welcome, i'm yoshimasa elder, in washington d.c.. it sounds like something straight out of the comics, it's not a bird, or a, plane it's a suspected chinese sky balloon, hovering over parts of the northern united states. this footage was cap

like 1619 project author nikole hannah-jones who complained about drug stores locking up merchandisea tweet on tuesday. so what is 1619 you ask? well it's the number of stupid things this broad says a day. she said, quote, if you're going to lock up everything in the drugstore, an already demeaning shopping experience -- apparently it's demeaning to go to a drugstore. at least have enough workers to open up the cases for all the customers who just need a razor. oh, she told us too much. [laughter] >> greg: i get it we all need a razor now and again. she ends it with, it's just a terrible shopping experience. oh, poor millionaire grifter. maybe they can't afford more workers because their stuff keeps getting stolen thanks to the legalization of organized looting, something you, clown, justified. imagine if you were beaten to death in a riot, nikole hannah-jones would probably complain about having to walk around the crime scene. fact is a rise in crime in shoplifting cases have forced stores to lock up merch and shun down stores. it's types like her that deny the problem. now we're lo

i want you to listen to nikole hannah-jones, creigh iter of the 1619 project on this. happening. >> how do you have african american studies course that doesn't deal with mass incar ration? why would reparation bs out of the pursue. we don't see this over asian studies, european studies. when it comes to black history, we want to treat this as a political playground. >> when i say she might be the reason. it's become of the backlash to the 1619 project that's created the fervor over crt and whatnot. she makes a good point. it's very transparent that this is happening over african american studies and not all these other topics. >> it didn't happen around some of the other courses that are offered. i take the long view of this, and it's a more positive view which is i think probably in about a year or two, this course is going to be offered in states across the country, probably half the states across the country. it's a very comprehensive course from ancient africa to afro futurism. you should look at the syllabus and the framework there. it's going to open up kids to

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nikole hannah-jones, who also made history recently ends by saying here lies the work of a woman who's at whose destiny would be both to chronicle history and to make it that she. charlayne, let's begin our conversation with your sharing what you would consider the most important impactful memory about aspects of your essay ordinary personal journey which began right here in georgia of course, even before historic desegregation of the university of georgia with. your conrad hamilton holmes. now you asked me a question that i'm supposed to remember that because now 80. okay and i was telling dr. gayl on the way over here there's so many things i don't even remember how i started this book, but i'm thinking about your life. yeah. no, i understand. i just wanted tell everybody that i might not remember everything, but georgia, covington, georgia, where i spent the first six years. i was six years old. i think maybe a little bit older when we moved to new atlanta and those were the days of segregation and the majority, the rulers, shall we say, had attempted to not only legally make us sec

nikole hannah-jones our ideals were false when they were written. they were written in 1776, right? all men are created meant then what it means now she's saying like and then we to make them true over the years and what i'm saying is our ideals were not written in 1776 when thomas jefferson said all men are created equal. what he meant was there's no divine right of kings. if you look at the argument of the declaration and you look at the enlightenment political philosophy that it's is embodied in it, that's what he in a world without government laws, no one has any duty to obey anyone else. that's what it means. and then the declaration goes on to talk about where legitimate political authority comes from and when it ceases be legitimate and when it can be rejected. he's not talking about the government treating people equally or the government respecting people equally. he's talking something very different. so in that sense, i think 1619 is sort the progressive version of the standard story. so the standard story has progressive and liberal progressive and conservative versions,

toppin substitutions of higher learning, sis row and ar stottle are out and can heed any and nikole hannah-jonesthey're in. so much so that suni just announced it's making a course in racial equity mandatory for graduation. because the left knows that objective merit hurts their own dim wits they work in overtime to kill standardized tests. of course standardized tests are ripe with cultural and racial bias. >> it's a poor measure an unfair measure and the sat and act need to be eliminated. >> why are we using standardized tests at all? because the goal of these tests was never education, it was always exclusion. >> laura: and even when we're long past covid, a lot of colleges have complied. but it gets worse. now the left wants to normalize cheating. in an op-ed a princeton student named emily santos recently called for the dismantling of the honor code system claiming it's a barrier to social mobility and a more equitable society. now she likened prince tons rules of academic dishonesty to our criminal justice system which of course professors across america including at princeton have branded

remember from the piece we read about the61 project that one of the most controversial claims, nikole hannah-jones made in the opening s at one of the reasons the colonies fought the revolutionary war was to uphold slavery, and in response to a qut signeso prominent historians. you had the new york times kind of clarifying the statement to sathat some of the conts fought the revolutionary war to uphold slavery. now, part of the rean is claim was controversial herschel is because it's a matter of interpretations that not all hiorends agree upon. so some who hannah-jones was really building on think the conists in this period were very worried about the british threatening the system chte slavery in the colonies or attempting to turn enslave people against them in any kind of struggle that they might have now you have other histoan who who kind of argue the colonists, elite colonists were not necessarily that worried about this the time a lot of the debate over this and how a role this is playing or how of mind this is for early colonists centers on british court ruling that's issued. 1772 referred

nikole hannah-jones tweeting, if you're going to lock up everything in a drugstore, you're already demeaningst have enough workers to open up the cases for all the customers to -- who just need a razor. rachel: i didn't know it was demeaning to shop at a drug store. pete: demeaning to ask someone to open up the locked counter because people are stealing -- joey: there's a lack 06 self-awareness in there. pete: a little. the national retail federation says shoplifters made off with $94.5 billion. rachel: come on. pete: also so they could feed their friends, baby formula. rachel: bread lines. [laughter] pete: one new jersey restaurant stirring up debate over their new policy that bans kids under 10 from eating there. nettie's house of spaghetti explained it doesn't want to deal with the noise, cleaning up the messes and the liability of having kids running around. some customers think it's going to the backfire. one person saying good luck staying in business, but others believe good food deserves a good atmosphere. the policy aches effect on -- takes effect on march 8th, and those are your he

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