when this whole nikuli, nikuli nikuli video came up it was from the university of penn and they said, let's arrest him that's the first thing we should do. >> and they did. >> and they said "we have gone too far with free speech" and all of this stuff. >> and salon or slate who wrote we americans -- i think it was slate. >> that was the posner guy. >> it was slume. >> or slum. >> the women are so poor. >> you went to college in the 1980sish. we had this big politically correct thing that happened in the late 1980s and the early 1990s. you thought maybe that died, and it just never did. >> no because the people that were students then became professors on our -- and are now in their 50s or 40s now on campuses, and they are as bad if not worse than the people taught them before. joe, what lesson if any can we learn from this wall? >> well, you are either in favor of free speech or you are not. there is really no in between. it is sad a grown man can't see something he disagrees with and not just walk away. can we say his name? >> yes. >> his name is joe ekirk which sounds like a catskil