we're going to have to meet and decide who we want to be our legal counsel, and i haven't talked to nila about -- i don't know whether it can be done in closed session or whether it has to be done in open session. there are no employees involved but at the same time it's very personnel oriented so i will look for that and with respect to this item what i just want to make sure this is fine. we definitely need some more money in the budget to do this, but i would expect whichever legal counsel that we choose to revisit the whole bench and to decide how we want to present in the future, whichever one we decide, whether it's the city attorney who wants to get more involved with their office and do this, or -- and i discussed with mr. herrera -- i said "well, of course you recognize there has been and will be conflicts in which the city has interest and not just the transbay terminal" and he agreed and said when he would step away from a particular decision but however rare that maybe or common that maybe, so it's going to be our choice, but we're going to have to make one, and i think sort