when we start this, willy-nilly change this in the case of medicare, what started as $566 million program with lyndon johnson in the mid-are 60s, is now a trillion dollar practice with a lot of holes in it, and when you set to sea, you see a lot more problems with the ship, and we're in deep ship here. so what -- >> keep in mind it was the medicare medicaid changes those had congressional approval as well. >> neil: absolutely. and both parties for this because we have got something that is leaking like asive -- seive here and they have to address the serious problems here and not just launch it willy-nilly and say we'll fix it down the road. >> you have dozens and dozen of republicans who ran into office and got elected saying they were going to do everything they could to stop obama care. they have a choice to defund and it they have we can't do that because we might get blamed for a shutdown. so what. american companies are shutting down because they won't shut down obamacare. >> neil: a big insurer in nudge is pulling out of new jersey as a result of this. it's amazing. eric erickson.

if you do purchase one of those papers, it does not mean you can go off willy-nilly. there are rules, of course. you must be able to read and understand english. the drone must be flying less than 1000 feet in the air, good luck on measuring that. it must be flying over private robert he and you can only shoot during the daytime. if you think selling these is a bit premature, you would be correct. the town board is split on how to issue these and if they should. the residents won't vote until early october. it already has one more to get the ordinance passed. showing off robert drone hunting techniques. he has never seen a drone flying on his property and the move is mostly symbolic. the faa is not laughing and warned that shooting could result in a criminal and civil action being taken against the gunslinger. i printed out my own license. this cost me about $.10. we will see what i decide to do with that but that will do it for now. for more stories, go to youtube.com/rtamerica. you can follow me on twitter for all things that i find interesting. i want to know what

but the idea of willy-nilly cutting it at this time is ridiculous. if you want to cut snap payments what you do is grow the economy. and there's an economic consensus among economists that to grow the economy you need more spending. and we have massive infrastructure needs in this country. and a spending program to invest in infrastructure would do a lot to bring down unemployment, and at the same time, bring down snap enrollment. it's just -- that's what we should be arguing about. >> yeah, and tom i agree with you but i think it's not just about growing the economy. it's about addressing this issue of the growing inequality. we can't really -- having a job -- creating new jobs isn't enough. it's creating jobs that actually pay a living wage. >> we'll get more about that in just a moment. when we come back the politics of hunger and also, how to solve the greater problem of food insecurity in america. stay with us. >> welcome back to inside story. we're talking about the hungry and food insecurity in america. still with us phil thompson senior agric

we seem to be karening willie and nilly to this camera side. we are crossing the line now between reasonable, video surveillance in public being a reasonable part of the policing or police action and you get into the unreasonable police infringement of the 4th amendment. let me read you one of these conditions so you can see what i'm talking about. i have probably seen 20 of these in the last few years. if you have a conditional license and pretty much everybody does in san francisco, you can petition the abc to give you a license and in that petition they have give you the conditions. but this one says the petitioner shall utilize electronic equipment to record inside and outside of the premises and must be kept for 30 days and made available for the police department. that is pretty big brother and i will tell you why. i think berry is right. if there is some reason to have that surveillance, it should be made available. if you don't want to give it up, then a judge can get it from you. however, my job is to save my clients money and do the r

. >> this is an argument for why the president shouldn't be willy-nilly be drawing red lines. the more red lines you draw -- the president has lost face. he's lost credibility. but the united states has a great and ferocious ability to defend ourselves. i don't think there is all of a sudden american credibility going out the window. the president's credibility's on the line, but the -- >> the red line was an international red line. it's not just that we said. >> and you said you were for the creme cal weapons band ban treaty. >> in addition, i think that when we talk about iran, that is a national security concern of the united states, not only because of our ally israel, but because of the consequences in that entire region of a nuclear armed iran. so i don't think it's about the president losing face. it's about whether or not the united states has the credibility in the world to ultimately back up what it says it intends to do and hopefully never have to pull the trigger as a result. >> if they go ahead with votes in the house, and if in fact the president loses decisively

within the international realm otherwise countries are just going to start attacking each other willy nilly and they're all they're really going to be taken after the us that will happen when other countries get stronger we would not like to see china bombing certain countries just because a they think they can without going to the un or or without some sort of self defense so we need to figure out how do we use them my concern that's the way to move forward alexander first go ahead. no i completely agree i mean the point about international law is that it is in the interest of the united states to work with international law international law the international system of law that we have today is largely the creation of the united states of american jurists american lawyers american diplomats american politicians they basically set up the system everyone else has gone along with it because it's bad not an ideal system but it's a workable system and it is a system that actually works for the united states exactly for the reason it's the internet you have to have. ok mark go ahead cynically g

a pop but if you do purchase one of those papers that does not mean that you can just go off willy nilly firing your gun at anything and everything overhead and there are rules of course in order to get the license you must be able to read and understand english the drone itself must be flying less than one thousand feet in the air good luck measuring that it must be flying over private property and you can only shoot at it during the daytime now if you're thinking that selling these licenses is a little premature you'd be correct the town board is split on the issue and the residents won't vote on the ordinance until early october but mr feel already has one major supporter ating to get the ordinance passed this is a picture of deer trail mare frank fields he's showing off proper drone hon. techniques with his gun there now for the record phil still says that he has never seen a drone on his property and that this move is mostly symbolic but the f.a.a. certainly isn't laughing it warned that shooting a u a v could result in criminal and civil actions being taken against the gun slinger

bucks a pop but if you do purchase one of those papers it does not mean that you can just go off willy nilly firing your gun at anything and everything overhead there are rules of course in order to get a license you must be able to read and understand english the drone itself must be flying less than one thousand feet in the air so good luck on measuring that it must be flying over private property and you can only shoot out a drone during the daytime now if you're thinking that selling these licenses is a bit premature you'd be correct the town board is split our know how to issue these and whether they should even issue them and the residents won't vote on the ordinance until early october but mr seale already has one major supporter aiming to get the ordinance passed this is a picture of deer trail mayor frank fields showing off proper or drone hunting techniques now for the record philip steele says that he has never seen a drone flying on his property and that the move is mostly symbolic the f.a.a. is not laughing though if warned that shooting a u.a.b. could result in a criminal and c

five bucks a pop but if you do purchase one of these papers it doesn't mean that you can go off willy nilly firing your gun that anything and everything overhead there are rules of course now in order to get this license you must be able to read and to understand english the drone itself must be flying less than one thousand feet in the air good luck measuring that and it must be flying over private property oh yeah and you can only shoot it during the daytime now if you're thinking that selling the license is a little premature you'd be correct the town board is split on the issue and the residents won't vote on it for another until october for another month or so but mr steele is already a major supporter and he has another major supporter you see the man in that picture there that is dear tree trailer mayor frank fields showing how to properly hunt drones now for the record phil steele says that he has never seen a drone on his property and that this move is mostly symbolic but the f.a.a. isn't laughing it warned that shooting a drone it would result in a criminal or civil action being t

so people are going to sign up for it willy-nilly trying to get free money.it because they get money as well. ultimately you think this will cause the american people too much. >> i think it is too big a subsidy for to many people happening too fast. you're a family of four, $94,500, you will get a subsidy to be individually is $45,000. that is 62 percent of americans. dollar -- daughter from a student 65 bucks a year, just graduated doormat, she could get free health care next year. gerri: she is not paying for college bills probably. [laughter] >> we pay for those. gerri: you have a special insight into this when you worked for george w. bush. you were medicare part b. your program, your rollout. that was a big entitlement program. why did that one work in this one you're worried about. >> it may work better because it is more money. at walmart to reduce costs because it was for poor people, focused on poor senior severity plus drug benefit. the income stream and a lot less. democrats complain about the overall. no poor person. further up in the income stre

they cannot go into the market and willy-nilly buy up assets to ease up balance sheets. it isn't in the remitt. the best we have got is a threat of omt but it remains a threat. but let's not do the ecb down too much here. they put over a trillion euros on the table for the banks through the ltro program. there is ample liquidity being fed into the credit machine. a lot of the bankers as you know, steve, just continue to argue that there isn't the demand because growth is still quite slow, quite sluggish in a lot of the eurozone economies. >> sure. but the rtlo money seemed to come with some former stigma attached. why else did all the northern banks put it back on deposit and the southern banks borrowed as much as they could. how was this the remedy when the banks could use the money and could use it without any consequences left it on deposit. >> well, that's a question that some of the bankers will have to answer themselves as they look into the mirrors and they feel the color of their own consciences. the debate remains is it a problem of demand or is it a problem of

years, father and son and hostility and iran and russia backing that assad is just going to willy-nilly turnover all his chemical weapons to some commit and ity and it will be destroyed? >> i believe that it could be worked if there is a good strong congressional resolution from both houses. give him a time mission, put the people in there, clean him out. and then you've always got the hammer to bring down if he doesn't comply. that's the perfect outcome and it does address the issue of the future use of chemical weapons. that's what we're looking for. >> before i get to nick burns, let me follow up. they don't have a resolution that gives the president the hammer. i believe you call it a hammer that would strike down if it doesn't work in 30 days. he doesn't have that. there is a catch 22 here. they won't vote unit they think the vote will pass. now everyone wants to wait to see if this i think crazy idea that assad will give up his chemical weapons with russia right in the middle of everything. i don't believe -- there is no hammer because nowhere along the line -- they have to have a

. >> i certainly wouldn't just begin shooting willy-nilly to protect myself.ure where i was coming from. i don't want to shoot innocent people. i would duck and hide someplace. >> he said he plan to keep practicing at the gun range with an instruct o'so he is ready to use his gun if he has to. for "outfront," des moines, iowa. >> a pretty amazing report when we filmed that. is it right that he should have a gun or not? >>> now the power of movies. harry is back. sort of. warner brothers is going to release the new film series based on the world of harry potter but it won't be about harry himself but follow the adventures of a guy like newton. i don't know how to pronounce it. most of you probably do. he is the hero of another wizard book called fantastic beasts and where to find them. j.k. rowling is writing the movie script. and she said the new film will be set in the worldwide community of witches and wizards where i was so happy for 17 years. newt's story will start in new york. j.k. rowling is worth nearly a billion. why is she going back to wizards? clea

afterwards, they were concerned that we not get into a position where we were an imperialist power, willy-nilly moving into capitals in that part of the world, taking down governments. >> after the gulf war, bush and his successor, bill clinton, send u.s. planes to provide air cover for vulnerable populations in northern and southern iraq. the u.n. security council imposes harsh sanctions and sends in weapons inspectors to dig deeply for iraqi wmd capabilities, weapons of mass destruction. >> this went on for years. at a certain point, unbeknownst to weapons inspectors or anyone else other than iraq, it turns out that we had pretty much accounted for the full system. but we didn't know that. >> in 1998, saddam refuses to cooperate further, and the united nations pulls out the weapons inspectors. saddam virtually seals iraq off from the west. in a 1998 letter to president clinton, paul wolfowitz, donald rumsfeld and other leading neoconservatives urge the president to take action to remove saddam's regime from power. the neocons align with an urbane named ahmed chalabi. he headed the iraqi congr

seen as defending the interests of german taxpayers and not spending their hard-earned savings willy-nilly to bail out greece or ireland or port gaugp. that endeared her to voters, as well as her personal style that's quite reserved. she takes time to think things over. she's not a politician who likes to spit off a sound bite and stand out of the glare of the cra camera. that's the option of steinbruck of the social democrats who can be quite witte and has a very sharp tongue and has shot himself in the foot during this campaign saying the chancellor's job should be better paid, that angela merkel got extra votes from women because she was a woman, managing to insult both switzerland and italy over scandals i won't bother you with. he's had a hard time mobilizing his supporters. this is his last chance to grab back the attention of the germany voter. we expect 20 million will watch the debate tonight. >> it looks like an yul hill struggle for steinbruck as he tries to narrow the gap. you mentioned merkel's leadership in the euro zone crisis. what about international, and how have those be

. >> we are supposed to trust this administration when they just willy-nilly deside to abide by the lawheir law, one of the salient features of the patient affordability act. now oh, by the way in this clandestine rule that came out july 4 they are not abiding by the law. after we did a lot of research on this and found out what they were doing they came to our committee three weeks later and said, oh, by the way we are going to do an audit of 100% of the people. no. we need a program that verifies the income so we don't have fraud and abuse costing american taxpayer dollars. >> every time there is a subsidy somebody epees for it. if the person isn't eligible they get a free subsidy and taxpayers pay the subsidy that comes out of taxpayer money. >> that's correct. >> the idea was that everyone pay into the pot to lower the price so if some are getting subsidies who shouldn't that skews the whole point of the financial way we were going to run it to begin with. >> it does. as chairman kevin brady said today, what are we just going to have a pinky promise on this? we continue have written

what he is saying is he's not going to put a dynamic in play in which the congress can willy-nilly in an unfettered way threaten the credit rating of our country every time they want so the policy goal. so we have to have this argued out now. it's better to argue it out now. and there will be consequences. and unfortunately, they won't just be for political parties. they'll be for our country and our economy if the republicans go in this direction. but it's far better for us to settle this matter now. and that's what the president's saying. he's not going to equivocate or compromise one inch. the debt ceiling will not be negotiated. he won't negotiate about the budget and what the spending priorities are. but he's not going to negotiate about the debt limit. and the congress voted to spend this money, and the congress has a responsibility to pay its bills. >> congressman, richard wolf, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks reverend. >>> coming um, more on the grand obstructionist party. why these political hostage takers are governing like rush limbaugh. >>> plus, i want to

don't want dictators and tyrants around the world to think that they can use chemical weapons willy-nilly been questions, as we've been talking to members of congress and members of the public as well, p.j., that terrorists are going to be inspired and both sides are using that argument that if the u.s. doesn't strike syria, it emboldens them because the u.s. is weak or looks weak and if it does strike syria, it just angers them and become as recruiting tool. is one argument stronger than the other? >> well, i agree with everything that bobby just said. but i would turn that around a little, chris. what happens when you have open-ended conflict like this and you have weakening governments as a result, it creates space for these extremists to operate, to maneuver and not only to -- and for a group like al nusra, narrows that may be. any time you give an extremist group land to occupy, then they not only have the opportunity to influence what happens on the ground in one country but then expand their operations over time into others. so i think it's idea that whenever you have this kind of

quickly nbc and cbs apparently also had sources so it's not as if they gave this information out willy-nilly but oftentimes that does happen. the access to social media we can get this information out so quickly it can get out before people have a deep breath. go ahead. >> a lot of these news events follow a slash setup. you'll see twitter and it will snowball and then local media will join in or in the case of boston bombing or sandy hook, you see twitter data show you what's going to happen and become the major news story before anyone can tell. >> that's not phil terd. >> it's not filtered, it's raw. >> and j.j. there's a danger beyond just getting out the information to the public investigators have their own sources. they do all their legwork too. but they also pay attention to the information coming in from social media. does that misinformation have an impact on the people going down the wrong information? >> it could but it's not often that this happens because i can tell you at least here in wrash and on the federal -- in washington and on the federal level they're very judicious ab

this is not going to be some willy nilly thing on the -- >> before we let you go. i have to talk about brazil's president, she canceled a prior meeting with the president. here's what rousseff said. let's listen in. >> meddling in such a manner in the lives and affairs of other countries is a brief of international law and as such an affrontment to the principles that should otherwise govern relations among countries, especially among friendly nations. >> chuck, if we didn't have the possible breakthrough with iran and continued negotiations with syria, that might have been the head line there. >> what's interesting about this, the administration thought last week just simply the brazilian canceling the state dinner, a hot place to invest, a lot of people excited about rousseff coming. i think this one -- they can't chalk this up to she was simply placating domestic politics. this is a snub on the world stage, right before he went to speak, just proves this nsa thing has been a big, by complicating factor for the president, not justal domesticay but internationally

. >> if in fact this information ends up just being dumped out willy nilly without regard to risks toy hard for us to be as effective in protecting the american people. >> the sweeping data collection on american citizens took a new turn with a "new york times" b publication of these powerpoints from a program called hemisphere. according to the leaked documents, agents were given broad access to an at&t database using subpoenas. while the nsa can typically retain records for five years, hemisphere can track back much farther. >> this hemisphere program apparently started in 2007 and is, again, something that the american public had no idea about. apparently it's where a little oversight. it's considered law enforcement sensitive, not actually classified. >> while a spokesman for at&t told fox news they can't comment on specific programs, they are required, like other companies, to respond to valid subpoenas. a justice department official emphasized the phone records are not held by the government but by the phone company. as for the nsa, those who support the mission say the gatherin

. >> people are just in their willy-nilly. >> you don't care if garbage co had shouldn't be anywhere up. >> and priceline. >> the futures all go up yesterday. con agra, pepsico, general mills goes up. then futures drop back for a second. now we realize we really don't like those stocks right now because we're not going to have a recession. we stel them back off. the upward wave of the futures is so -- it's overwhelming. it's like just a riptide. >> correlation moves to one. >> correlation. >> right. >> when you hear that's managers on, a lot of these guys say, well, i like the market. that mean they actually like the market. i don't like certain housing companies here. but that's too granular for these guys. we didn't used to have that. people would say, well, i like these stocks. i like the market here. what are you boying? the market. that means they're boying everything. >> and the problem with etfs is if we click buy, and everything goes up, how easy is it just to hit sell as well and everything goes down? >> well, i think that what could happen hear is that we'll get to the quar

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. >> i certainly wouldn't just begin shooting willy-nilly to protect myself.n't know for sure where it was coming from. i don't want to shoot innocent people. i'd duck and hide some place. >> reporter: michael says he plans to keep practicing it at a gun range with an instructor. >> good shot. >> reporter: ted rolands, cnn, des moines, iowa. >> it's a thought-provoking argument, blind people owning guns, shooting guns, the right to do so. doesn't the second amendment state anyone has the right to bear arms? first let's take a look at what legally constitutes blindness, legal blindness or what the state of iowa does to define it. when a person is able to see straight ahead of them in 2200 or less in his or her better eye with correction. visual field or side vision is considered. a visual field of 20 degrees or less is considered to be legally blind. so 20/200 vision means a person can see clearly at 20 feet what a perfect sighted person could see at 200 feet. i hope that's all clear. i'm glad you're here. i often fall back on this old argument that we have a c

throwing away willy-nilly is an exercise in foolhardiness. >> host: portrayal of sexual activity on screen is not simply about telling a story or an lightning viewers. is about legitimizing the behavior. when increasingly younger teens are exposed to soft core pornography, on the big screen there's a cultural results. >> guest: you have to give permission to teenagers to do something. how is it teenagers decide suddenly that it is ok to participate in certain activities when it wasn't okay before? when you subsidize an activity you get more of that. made we decided it is okay to subsidize some of these activities but there's a tremendous impact in terms of that and most obvious example you can use for something like this is the impact of the culture's acceptance of for example single motherhood. there is our culture that largely accepted that. you may think that is a good thing or bad thing. it is sternly up more, nothing. in the black community when the civil rights act was passed the unwed motherhood rate was near 30%, now 72%, the white community it was low single digits, now is 40%. th

. >> i certainly wouldn't just begin shooting willy-nilly to protect myself. didn't know for sure where i was coming from because i don't want to shoot innocent people. i would duck and hide someplace. >> reporter: he plans to keep practicing at the gun range with an instructor so he is ready to use his gun if he has to. for out front, ted rowlands, des moines, iowa. >> our usual legal eagles are off, i have a couple other legal eagles to talk about this case with me, wendy murphy, former prosecutor and author of "and justice for some." and law professor at new england law in boston. good to see you. danny is a criminal defense attorney, good to see you as well. it used to be up to local sheriffs in iowa who could deny a gun permit for any reason, including blindness. now permits can only be denied for a specific reason cited in state or federal law, such as domestic abuse or felony conviction. so wendy, you first. is this one of those how did this become law anyway in the first place kind of issues? >> well, you know, it is very common for sheriffs or local p

minimize those things then sometimes it is wrong a lot of times it is right that throwing it away willy-nilly is an exercise. >> host: portrayal of sexual activity of screen is not since the about telling faith a story or it looked like the behavior's but legitimizing behavior young routines are exposed to soft pornography and there is a cultural result. >> guest: they give permission to do something powless if they decide suddenly it is okay to do activities and it wasn't before? maybe we have decided as a society it is located subsidize these activities with there is an impact the most obvious you could use is the impact of the culture's acceptance of single motherhood. of unwed motherhood and largely accepted. you may think that is good or bad but it is more common. in the black community when the civil rights act was passed the gun went motherhood wright was 32 percent of the 72 white it was low single-digit sell about 40 percent that is a big increase in a short period time largely due to a culture that has decided but is not important to regulators such collectivity or almost vilified -

that's why i told the president, we just can't be going off willie nilly on different missions if wedoes it cost roughly to keep those warships in the mediterranean standing ready to strike? >> about $30 million a week. that's the task force and the destroyers that are there. >> brian: wow. that's interesting. now let's talk about how the talks are going in geneva. it turns out assad sat down with moscow tv reporter and one of the things he said is that yeah, we'll get rid of our chemical weapons when israel gets rid of their nuclear weapons and the u.s. has to promise not to strike us and sign off on it, and by the way, the only reason we're coming to the table is 'cause russia asked us to and you better not arm the rebels. doesn't sound like a guy who is very contrite. >> no. i think they're playing games with us. i know secretary kerry yesterday said this is not a game. i guess there was a reason he said that, because it appears to most of us that it is a game. and they're just kind of playing with us. i would hope that something could come of this. it might be a little far fetche

the president simply does not have the right to willy-nilly start dispatching troops that are going tontail ongoing and long commitments, especially when it's not about something directly related to national defense. host: deborah joining us from hampton, virginia. good morning. caller: good morning. i just want to call in defense of the president's decision to seek congressional approval. but i think initially, i think the idea was that it would be limited and that would have made any action that he did take limited in its scope to be, you know, legal. so i just wanted to call and say that. guest: well, it's also interesting because some observers have said, you know, obama, in terms of talking about a very limited, targeted strike, you know, they always love to use the term "surgical" as if bombing, even with today's technology, is somehow superprecise. but critics have been saying obama's trying to get a little bit pregnant here. once you start lobbing missiles, once you start attacking a country, you have to have a contingency plan. if nothing else, the past dozen years of failed a

throwing it away willy-nilly as an exercise in foolhardiness. >> host: for trail of activity is not simplytelling a story or enlightening viewers. it is legitimizing the behavior when increasingly younger teens are those two soft on the big screen there is a cultural resort. >> guest: you have to give permission to do some pain. how is that the teenagers decide suddenly it's okay to participate in certain activities when it wasn't okay before. when you subsidize, you get more. maybe we decided it's okay to subsidize these activities. the most obvious example you can use for something like this is the impact of the cultures except himself, for extent oconee single motherhood. the culture has largely accepted on what motherhood. you may think it's a good thing or a bad thing. it's the more common. in the black community when the civil rights act was passed, the or 8%. the white community lists in low single digits. that's a tremendous increase in a short period of time largely due to a culture that's decided it's no longer important to regulate your sexually burgess. are almost glorified. th

common set of standards that everybody is living up to as opposed to every poll being reported on willy-nilly as if they're all equal in quality. as if they're all tracking each other, and make sense when you follow from cnn's poll to abc's poll. they aren't all the same right now. and that is not to suggest any one or the other of those has more quality but nobody knows if they're of the same quality and so the public may be right in having some, i want to say healthy doubt about whether they're all trustworthy or not because they're being inundated with them. there is no one telling them there's a common standard so that might be one thing to consider going forward. >> part of me wants to sort of question the premise in the sense i mean i think for consumers of polling, people who pay for it, the people who seek it out, who write about it, yeah, we have, an issue with trust and with sort of proving that the model that has worked for the last 30 years can serve us in the future which is what we're all here to talk about but i don't think we needed to survey or attempt to survey 230 million a

set of standards that everybody is living up to as opposed to every poll being reported on willie nillys if they are equal in quality and tracking each other and make sense when you follow from cnn's poll to abc's poll. they aren't all the same right now. and that's not to suggest any one or the other has more quality, but nobody knows if they are the same quality. so the public may be right in having some toi. say healthy doubt whether they're all trust worthy or not because they're getting indagated with them. they have no way of knowing. no one is telling them there's a common standard. it might be one thing to consider going forward. >> part of me wants to sort of question the premise in this sense. i mean, i think for consumers of polling, people who pay for it. people who seek it out. who write about it. yeah, we have an issue with trust and with sort of proving that the model that has worked for the last thirty years can service the future which is what we're here to talk about. i don't think we need to survey or attempt survey 230 million americans to get that. what would be nic