amy: nils muinieks, you been spending a lot of your time on ukraine.ould we understand about it? >> ukraine is a human rights disaster zone. -- the humanen rights situation has deteriorated very seriously in the last year. the east of the country, which is held by the rebels, supported by russia, i was in an you ask and rebel occupied donetsk in july. they're very serious human rights issues, but that you manage a situation is also catastrophic. yet a lot of people have been displaced from a lot of people who are going hungry, who don't have access to clean water, to medicine, yet allegations of enforced -- forced disappearances, arbitrary detention, torture. and the west needs to support ukraine, but it also needs to hold into account for its human rights violations because it also has not done everything it can and sometimes there are some -- there are some military groupings which are also involved were implicated in him and rights violations. amy: we have to leave it there but we will continue to follow all of these issues. nils muinieks is the cou