and nimby is? not in my back yard and there's a whole host of acronyms that you can use. and then i actually was executive director for the national council on alcoholism and drug dependence for a couple of years. and all of that to say is that i focused a lot on the advocacy part of it and, and pushing the system if you will. and, and what i began to see, once i came on the inside with my current organization, is there is stigma and discrimination and biases within the field, probably just, if not to a larger degree than what you see outside. i think the whole issue of medication assisted treatment is one that, that we just don't want to talk about. i think some of it is, is that the workforce is basically trained in a certain modality or methodology or clinical approach and don't want to veer far from that approach. but in this new day and this new age, we're focusing more on the strength based approach, a person centered approach, more so than identifying the person by an action. and john, should we be looking internally first and, and if so, how do we approach the edu

avoid the type of disaster that we've seen elsewhere but i mean if you and eons trying to avoid it nimby situation we've got cancer alley down in texas well there and i mean because of the refineries and refinery process because i was stuff in the air it's that we can do is try to avoid well i mean canada doesn't have the refining capacity for this oil so they're trying to get it down to the massive are going to be chewed off we'll get them to build a giant pipeline i think it. this point they really want to get it out to market too so they're trying to get it to our port and i think we're beginning to find more and more evidence that this well isn't even intended for the united states it's intended to be shipped abroad so the u.s. is going to bear since they're willing to give it traveling across their land the risk of it be refiled to result and they'll set it up and then send it back to south america and latin america as well and so so what are we up against here surely you've been here you've seen the part of the protests you came here to justify. are the lobbyists prevailing or are