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information and cover for the republican party. >> if we have a situation, where this is politically motivated. you need to step back and say, why this country. divided president biden, he said you're gonna bring us together. >> people are quick to make leaps to certain events, in the past. certain political ideologies, what may have driven this person. we can't make those leaps. we shouldn't make those layups. we just don't know at this point. as this person could've been motivated by just about anything. we don't. no >> we don't know all the information, obviously, some of us are like that's the bottom line but that doesn't add up, something, something doesn't add. up >> it'll take a while to figure it out. >> okay there's a few things going. on you can say we don't have the information, fine, it doesn't add up is, it's questionable what you mean by that. but what doesn't add up very quickly becomes, became, completely disgusting responses to the attack on paul pelosi. some of what you are retweeted by sitting united states senator ted cruz. some were set out loud by kari lake. to get a big laugh on the campaign trail. >> it's not impossible to protect our kids at school. the act like it is, nancy pelosi well she gets protection -- her house doesn't have a lot of protection. >> the guy interviewing her had to cover his face with notes. he thought it was so funny. meanwhile, if you're worried about the worst kind of misinformation on twitter. elon musk doing great so far. the new owner is spreading the stuff himself. elon musk tweeted to more than 200 million people, a completely fabricated, unhinged considers a lie about paul pelosi. -- already infamous for cuban i'm level content. he later deleted the tweet but when 100 million people may have seen it. it's late for take backs. so, people like donald trump jr., felt unable to get on the action, making post like this, snorting with the light that a man broke into a home to, assaults because the house representative. clay higgins, republican congressman from louisiana, shared a meme. again, this kind of delight and other people falling prey to violence, the conspiratorial worldview, that, twist distorts any development to its own, it's very much the mainstream of the world right now. katie wiles's -- covers right-wing grapes, conspiracy theories. she's author of the book off -- what people believe anything. and to that point, kelly, i think of myself is not easy to shock. and you, at elon musk tweeting a link to again, an entirely fabricated, despicable, lie about the events that he knew his assailant. they had relationships. i was shocked by that, a, and be, shocked by how quickly that became the standard story for a huge who's who of conservatives. >> you know, it should be shocking but we've seen this behavior played out over years now. the right wing of the republican party. certainly, we need to include elon musk there. he said he's been an agile around twin or -- posting things that stir the pot. and things that aren't necessarily rounded in reality. unfortunately, what would've been years ago, a very fringe website, with a very limited readership. now reaches hundreds of millions of people. and elon tweeted that length, it was frankly homophobic article, it was completely baseless. but it received so much traffic after that tweet, that the site crashed. it's the kind of media ecosystem we're in right now. these people have massive megaphones. they can really use them -- >> it's also a perfect kind of synthesis here, between this individual who clearly had fallen down a rabbit hole, of paranoia conspiracy theories, every single one of them as we said, referenced. and then precisely the kind of thing he would subscribe to. popping up, and advocated by folks in the right in the immediate aftermath of him being driven by the same conspiracy theories to this violent action. >> yeah, it's really striking, chris, there is this cycle, of republicans instigating this type of language. winking and nodding at the fringes of their party. and not taking responsibility when people inevitably -- on those claims. if you truly believe the qanon claims that people are drinking babies blood in a basement. it's very natural to want to take action on. that of course, however, this isn't easily debunked claim. and republicans have a responsibility to say, it's not true. they have a responsibility to safeguard their peers against these violent, and bloodthirsty claims but it's not what's happening and when people again do act on those claims republicans will either say, not really any of arguing -- or really laugh at it, encourage the next. i >> laugh at it. that's the other thing i found that kari lake tobin that was so revealing. you can see it and her dad paton. you could see it in the crowd's reaction, a they're laughing at maybe two year old man being slapped with a hammer in his head -- skull fractured. and he needed emergencies surgery and is in the icu. that's, the joe. like, there is no joke other than that. and if you're laughing at that what you're doing is it seems to me a kind of collaborating with the audience and produce saying a sense that this kind of thing is okay. >> absolutely. i think republicans junk the -- nearly two years ago now. they failed to hold most people accountable for the january 6th riot. there were a couple moments after the fact where it did seem like some republicans were gonna get with widespread combination of this attack and unfortunately it hasn't held out we've seen republicans either brush up the event or honestly treat these defendants as martyrs. people like marjorie taylor greene, talking about january six defendants as political prisoners. these are again, and people that broke into the capitol, attempted to attack their peers, and the valor is a shun of this is i think quite worrying. we're gonna see more of these kinds of incidents. >> also, this defense, that half defense, 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issues remain, that's what he said last week in the debate without kathy hochul. he's trying to play both sides of the fence. he's saying, yes, irregularities are concerned, but says biden was legitimately elected. he's being very enviable figure, who's doing real talk about new york's issues and what we need to do here. >> yeah, this amnesia is a key part of this. he's also, he's also focus relentlessly on crime. he's made the case, which is completely belied by the data, new york's bail reform law has led to it. i can't count the number of ads i've seen, it's part of a broader agenda or republican and conservatives, to just basically focus on the issue to the exclusion of all others. i haven't seen a single zeldin ad about anything else. >> that's absolutely right. it's really been brought out, the polling data has been a feedback loop. -- he's getting more traction. he demagogues on crime. and the problem for vogel, she has an unlimited tool to defend yourself with. because she can say, as many democrats are saying, it's not the bailout laws, it's not a bailout. laws but peoples perceptions, a feeling unsafe, certain incidents that get blown up and media and social media. to particularly by the new york post is influential. it all takes a toll. >> it's also the case, as new yorkers, there are certain categories of time -- the people are genuinely pretty freaked out. but, it's also to your point, we've seen this time and time again. it's like the ads, the coverage you are locked in a cycle right now and he's benefited from it. the thing i keep coming back to, he's a cosponsor i think of one of the criminalizing abortion federally laws. right, am i right about? that >> not sure. >> i think, he signed on one of his earlier -- he's tried to fudge that and the same way he's trying to fudge the january six. there's a question of can you basically wiggle out from under your skin, into anything that's sort of on the ballot for you. >> for instance, he wants to 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