nina pwhy was it added to the list this time? >> it is a new form of persecution. these are government -- this is a government very self-conscious of human rights records. it is a modern government. it doesn't use bloody versions of persecution we see like in saudi arabia and sudan. it uses a whole dense web of restrictive laws and regulations to suppress christian worship and prevent people from worshipping in some cases and being able to replicate themselves. there is not a single christian seminary or higher education facility allowed. these christian minoritiers, all of them are dwindling down to statistical insignificance, 0.15 percent of the entire population of turkey. they are very frail. we are going to see them vanish if turkey doesn't give them religious freedom. >> saudi arabia is on the list. last week the top muslim cleric says all churches should be wiped off the arabian peninsula. they build mosques and schools and neighborhoods, why are they so hostile to the christians. >> it is the belief in saudi arabia, they have 0 tolerance for other religion.