seeing ninone, public, it is closed. [applause] president buell: go ahead and clap. that is a good idea. and let me thank you for trying to keep your comments to one minute. i know that seems onerous at times, but it is 10 after seven now and we still have another item that should be a long public hearing. with that, it is in the hands of the commission. i am going to ask for comments and start with commissioner harrison. vice president harrison: i have been around the department for a lot of years. i started working as a gardener in 1964. over the years, i and my fellow gardeners have expressed concern over the hanc and the effects. the term homelessness is not a real term. what i feel is that the hanc center is a resource for these addictive people. they go there and they collect -- and during my term on this commission, i have heard people from the neighborhood come in and complain about the hanc and the folks that go their raiding their recycle bins, leaving the dust behind and the papers and whatever. as far as my fellow gardeners were concerned, one in particul