one of my favorites. >> i did not do the de niro. >> de niro is fantastic. >> excuse me? nope. okay. okay. yep. nope. okay. he's my first guest on our show. >> you see that as your dark street because you're known he's renowned to be this terrible guest. i would love to have him on because i love de niro. when you watch him, it's torture for everybody when he's doing interviews. >> he doesn't like to talk. >> so you choose the guy when you get your massive gig for your first show and it's robert de niro. why would you do that? >> when you start a show, publicists, they control the actors, what publicity they do. so publicists basically run actors' lives and what they do in a weird way. so when you go out to publicists when you're first starting out, publicists are afraid of you. they're like, this show is going to probably flop. i don't want my client near a flop, i don't want my client to go on a sinking ship. so you have to call in friends and favors, for the first week at least. so i had tina fey, justin timberlake. tina was like, i'll do the first show, second show. whateve

. >> you're not going to have the matt damon and robert de niros doing these rallies where you have publiclast go-round. that seems to be more of a thing. we can ask that question. >> there's a different issue that is revealed by this whole episode and that is a question of obama's character. you may have loved him, loved him, loved him during the campaign. no candidate ever governs like he runs. he promised change and he does control the white house and a house -- the house of congress is his party. and he's governing like he has no power. >> i later sat down with the wrap founder sharon waxman to talk about her coverage of all media and entertainment issues in a hollywood culture where access is everything. >> sharon waxman, welcome. >> thank you. >> the story that dominated the news has been the debt ceiling negotiations in washington. out here you feel like you're a million miles away, the weather is nice, the palm threes. the other day you were talking about the debt ceiling for an entertainment website? >> we have to follow the news. that's all anybody is talking about. whatever glob

funny or die," in which you have apparently come up with such a piece of comic genius that robert de niro described you as wooden. >> yes. >> michelle williams told me before i did it, she said why don't you predict you have malaria. you know, run. don't do this with paul ryan. >> so you have done this. you can check it out. but the crucial battle theme, you're a competitive man, is you're very near to beating sandra bullock and ryan reynolds in the number of people who viewed this right? >> the first week that sandra and ryan did the proposal, they did 600,000. we're at 585,000 now. so i think we need 14 or 15,000 more people. and we have about another three or four hours. >> harvey, i want every one of my viewers to click on funnyordie.com. >> thank you, piers. >> coming up, a man who loves a good argument and he's come to the right place, magic man. 95% of all americans[ ma] aren't getting enough whole grain. but actually, it's never been easier to get the whole grain you want from your favorite big g cereals. from cheerios to lucky charms, there's whole grain in every box. make sure t

. >> the answer to the trivia question of the day is robert de niro and the winner is mike peyton, spartanbergom untouchable to unaffordable, secretary of defense leon panetta says military pensions can be cut now. >> it's the kind of thing you have to consider in terms of retirement reforms in the broad form. >> but instead of our patriots being forced to pay, what if congress cut pensions? the founder of iraq veterans for congress, todd harrison is the senior fellow of defense budget studies for the center for strategic and budgetary assessment and retired air force reservist. let me start with you, you say you're against this idea. tell us why you're against panetta's proposal? >> i think it's a bad idea. we have three wars going on and we have people and their families who have sacrificed so much over the last 10 years and we're going to ask them to be first on the chopping block. there's a need for pension reform when it comes to federal employees and all civil employees. but let's not start with the people who have already given so much to this country. >> what do you think of this plan?