who elected abraham lincoln as the first president one have years ago, pin their 1960 hopes on nixon analogicpresident eisenhower -- nixon and lodge. president eisenhower poses with his vice president in chicago. one of those heart worming conventions on his arrival to address the gop convention. [cheers and applause] -- one of the most heartwarming. thank you mike day. spills over into the convention hall where i can maybe hold-- ike and mamie hold center stage. [cheers and applause] the partisan crowd receives an accounting of the republican administration to term stewardship at the headline making remarks of the president concerned the issue of whether people everywhere want to live under communism or a free system. he hurls dramatic plebiscite challenge at the soviet premier nikita khrushchev. him.challenge he agree to the holding of free elections, under the sponsorship of the united nations? to permit people everywhere in every nation on every continent, to vote on one single civil issue? that issue is, do you want to live under a communist regime or under a free system, such as that fo

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tom: the analog is nixon/mcgovern, shades of that across three and four election cycles.n mr. biden and senator harris learn from the nixon/mcgovern era so that they can do better against trump? just as a general statement, what should the plan be? matthew: i think the plan has got to be to get to that central point of why they believe in america, and how they want to change america for the good. the reason i keep coming back to that point is because the more trump is able to frame them as being almost un-american, as being "radical left socialists that want to tear down the wall and bring chaos to the streets," in middle america, in flyover america, that message will resonate. it will cut through. so biden and harris have got to get back to telling a positive story about how they want to change the country for the better. it has to be a unifying story. it can't be a fragmented story. that is what obama did so well. that is exactly why he did so well. he talked about transcending boundaries. it wasn't red states and blue states. it was the united states of america. biden

andd: is ancient history therefore probably irrelevant, but is there an analogy to 1968 when we had the riots and richard nixonsed it to good effect? frank: he had a 25 point eight coming out of the two convictions -- conventions. on election day, nixon won by less than 1%. hubert humphrey was able to convey to the public that he had empathy and heart. i believe with the american people want now is a hub. they got that from melania trump and ivanka trump, not from donald trump. you have two messages the republicans are using. they are not in competition but they are not necessarily on a parallel track. david: you're such an expert when it comes to polls. one of the things we have talked about is how soon do we start to look at the polls. maybe too early right now. when will it be time to pay attention, in which polls will you be focused on? frank: i do this every single day. once you get within 100 days it is close enough. over the labor day weekend, traditionally, is when a lot of americans make up their decision. ,hey decide about the economy about the past, present, and future. i would tune in about labor d