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and there were people in the nixon white house, from the top to the bottom, who so believed in nixoning to do most anything to get him re-elected. >> my loyalty to this -- to this man, richard nixon, goes back longer than any person that you will see sitting at this table throughout any of these hearings. >> they decided to break into the headquarters of the democratic national committee. they went in three times. well, they tried to get in three times. the first time, they failed completely because the door was locked. and they didn't have the right locksmith with them. >> the second time, they didn't appear to know where larry o'brien's office was located. so they bugged an empty conference room. >> but it's that third effort that is the famous break-in. and that was an attempt to correct errors made previously. they wanted to move a bug. they had three more bugs which they wanted to plant. they were also going to put a listening device in a smoke detector. and the burglars were told that they were engaged in a national security operation. so this would have been a massive espionag
and there were people in the nixon white house, from the top to the bottom, who so believed in nixoning to do most anything to get him re-elected. >> my loyalty to this -- to this man, richard nixon, goes back longer than any person that you will see sitting at this table throughout any of these hearings. >> they decided to break into the headquarters of the democratic national committee. they went in three times. well, they tried to get in three times. the first time, they failed...
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white house counsel john dean investigate this. >> dean has conducted a complete investigation of all leads which might involve any present members of the white house staff or anybody in the government. >> nixonventing a story about the investigation using me as his new shield. >> his investigation indicates that no one in the white house staff, no one in this administration, presently employed was involved in this very bizarre incident. >> i was flabbergasted. i thought, what a nice vote of confidence. isn't that flattering that he called me out? but then i realized he putt me in front of the bus. >> john dean was gradually being set up. nixon planned to make dean the fall guy. >> in the first couple weeks after the break-in i learned that there was an investigation by a prosecutor in florida who had found a check that went through the watergate burglar's catalanotto and connected to the committee for the re-election of the president so i said to the editors at "washington post," there's a guy down there in florida doing an investigation and they got me on the next plane to go down to florida where the burglars were from and there's the check for $25,000. i called woodward. i said somewhere
white house counsel john dean investigate this. >> dean has conducted a complete investigation of all leads which might involve any present members of the white house staff or anybody in the government. >> nixonventing a story about the investigation using me as his new shield. >> his investigation indicates that no one in the white house staff, no one in this administration, presently employed was involved in this very bizarre incident. >> i was flabbergasted. i...
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your right hand to tell the truth. >> first, let me say that from the day that i started at the nixon white house, which was january 21st of the first year of the nixon administration. i was the deputy white house chief of chess staff. and i was also, at that same time, at the beginning, chief administrative officer and director of internal security. and then, within a year, i was secretary to the cabinet, and working very closely on a daily basis with the president himself. and my only boss was haldeman and he and i -- i had trouble with him, i had known him back at ucla back in 1940. and we were close because we -- our girl friends were kappa kappa gamma sisters. so bob counted on me to do a lot of things right away, and i took that, i don't have any trouble doing it. i was colonel an air force, and one of the world's greatest fighter pilots. so, this is something i felt i could do and do pretty well. >> as he watched this current investigation of the president, and he watches testimony unfolds. what are your reactions to the witnesses so, far especially cassidy hutchinson. >> well, i'm glad yo
your right hand to tell the truth. >> first, let me say that from the day that i started at the nixon white house, which was january 21st of the first year of the nixon administration. i was the deputy white house chief of chess staff. and i was also, at that same time, at the beginning, chief administrative officer and director of internal security. and then, within a year, i was secretary to the cabinet, and working very closely on a daily basis with the president himself. and my only...
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nixon learned this first hand this afternoon when he invited the republican leaders of the house and the senate, along with senator barry goldwater, down to the whiteoking around. i know i'm going to be impeached in the house. so what's going to happen in the senate? goldwater. one of the great moments in presidential history said "mr. president, you have five votes, and one of them is not mine." the next night, nixon announced on television that he was resigning. >> good evening. this is the 37th time i have spoken to you from this office throughout the long and difficult period of watergate, i have felt it was my duty to persevere, to make every possible effort to complete the term of office to which you elected me. to leave office before my term is completed is abhorrent to every instinct in my body. but as president, i must put the interests of america first. >> what america and the world saw in 1974 was the most powerful man in the world lose his job. and for anyone who doubted the strength of the u.s. constitution, what they witnessed removed those doubts. >> i shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow. vice president ford will b
nixon learned this first hand this afternoon when he invited the republican leaders of the house and the senate, along with senator barry goldwater, down to the whiteoking around. i know i'm going to be impeached in the house. so what's going to happen in the senate? goldwater. one of the great moments in presidential history said "mr. president, you have five votes, and one of them is not mine." the next night, nixon announced on television that he was resigning. >> good...
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installed in president nixon's white house and other presidential offices. these tapes prove that white house john council john dean who testified before the committee for days? had been telling the truth in laboriously. of days revealing that nixon and his leadership team were deeply involved in a massive cover-up designed to conceal the entire watergate affair. a chain of events that included the commission of crimes did we learn lesson? i fear not. the committee followed the money it's investigation and found that huge sums of unaccountable campaign money a road democracy. today we have the same problem. the citizens united decision and my mind one of the worst supreme court ruling star history. opened the floodgates for corruption just as with watergate. today is electrical process as a washington in unlimited and shameful amounts of money. democracy will survive as senator irvin said in remember this it is quote the last best. hope of mankind. in his eternal struggle to govern himself decently and effectively. and in my viewmocracy will prevail because i
installed in president nixon's white house and other presidential offices. these tapes prove that white house john council john dean who testified before the committee for days? had been telling the truth in laboriously. of days revealing that nixon and his leadership team were deeply involved in a massive cover-up designed to conceal the entire watergate affair. a chain of events that included the commission of crimes did we learn lesson? i fear not. the committee followed the money it's...
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i want to fast forward to a year later, april 1973, from a nixon office white house tape. this is talking about the man we have in talking about, g gordon liddy here is part of that tape. [video clip] >> they were trying to reach me. they seem to be in transit from someplace. >> very good. >> in the meantime, on liddy, i don't know the man and have no control over him. the president wants everybody involved in this and everything they know. >> i will get that first thing in the morning. >> i think that's the best thing to do. one thing i want to be sure of that we understand, i have no control over him. his -- raising the question that maybe he is talking because of me. because of mitchell. >> taking it from a high authority. it will be handled discreetly. >> i just want to be sure to understand as far as the president is concerned, you have to call anyone on that. those are your orders. >> thank you. >> i talked to john dean. i wanted to ask you this, the president thinks it is important that if we tell liddy's attorney -- >> we are trying to get in touch with him. >> you
i want to fast forward to a year later, april 1973, from a nixon office white house tape. this is talking about the man we have in talking about, g gordon liddy here is part of that tape. [video clip] >> they were trying to reach me. they seem to be in transit from someplace. >> very good. >> in the meantime, on liddy, i don't know the man and have no control over him. the president wants everybody involved in this and everything they know. >> i will get that first thing...
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white house. white house counsel. to understand that role, here's some historical context. during the watergate hearings, the breakthrough witnesses was none other than richard nixon's white house counsel, john dean. his testimony in june of 1973 cracked open the investigation. >> i began by telling the president that there was a cancer growing on the presidency. and if the cancer was not removed, the president himself would be killed by it. i also told him that it was important for this cancer to be removed immediately, because it was growing more deadly every day. >> that infamous line, which echoes down for history about the cancer growing on the presidency, it was a public acknowledgment from dean that people within the white house, dina and others. they knew what they were doing was wrong. they were up to no good. they realized what they were doing was criminal, and they engaged in a criminal cover-up knowingly. i thought about john dean and that line, cancer on the presidency. as cassidy hutchinson testified before the committee last week. there was that particularly dramatic moment in her testimony. she described how pat cipollone was desperate to ensure that donald trum
white house. white house counsel. to understand that role, here's some historical context. during the watergate hearings, the breakthrough witnesses was none other than richard nixon's white house counsel, john dean. his testimony in june of 1973 cracked open the investigation. >> i began by telling the president that there was a cancer growing on the presidency. and if the cancer was not removed, the president himself would be killed by it. i also told him that it was important for this...
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director of the fbi diane sawyer who worked for a while before going to network television in the nixon white house john dean. who was nixon's council in the early days of the watergate scandal pat buchanan, who is a nixon aid who later ran for president three times? sticking and failing to win the republican nomination for presidency alexander hague who was nixon's chief of staff later in the watergate period ron ziegler, he was the press secretary. the one who mentioned who referred to watergate famously as a third rate burglary. these were all among the candidates these and many more were identified as likely sources. likely to have been deep throat. in fact, there were college courses. one of them at the university of illinois that spent semesters. digging through the tips and clues and hints and all the president's been to try to figure out. who the most likely source was? and one of these efforts identified pat buchanan an arch conservative republican who seemed on his face to be quite unlikely to have been deep throat. but since he was a native of washington or had lived in washington for ma
director of the fbi diane sawyer who worked for a while before going to network television in the nixon white house john dean. who was nixon's council in the early days of the watergate scandal pat buchanan, who is a nixon aid who later ran for president three times? sticking and failing to win the republican nomination for presidency alexander hague who was nixon's chief of staff later in the watergate period ron ziegler, he was the press secretary. the one who mentioned who referred to...
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here to discuss, john dean, who was nixon white house counsel and counsel to the house democrats during the first trump impeachment. gentlemen, good to see you. thanks so much. let's start with ambassador eisen. ambassador, the hutchinson testimony this week was explosive. it added a lot to the public's understanding of what happened leading up to and on january 6th. has there been a shift in momentum for the committee, you think, and a rising alarm in trump world because of all these revelations that are coming out? >> don, thanks for having me back. i think the committee was accelerating even before cassidy hutchinson, but she put them into hyper drive. she provided the missing link, many missing links that we have been waiting for. but above all, tying trump very directly to the violence. he knew that there were weapons in the crowd. he incited the crowd. he wanted to march with the crowd. and then his hostility that she reported towards mike pence, not sympathetic at all agreeing, and that terrible tweet a little after 2:00 p.m. so this was a devastating acceleration, i think, of do
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he's a former white house counsel to the nixon white house and cnn global affairs analyst susan joins us as well. good evening to both of you. john, you first. that video, it's something else, as they say. seeing trump's reluctance to condemn the violence the day after the insurrection, plus the handwritten edits, plus when everybody else was saying that he should do because it went to his reputation, his legacy and which is the show about trump's feelings toward the insurrectionists and how damning is this new evidence in your eyes? >> it shows the insurrectionists were doing exactly what he wanted. it played out exactly as he probably assumed it would. from early, i think this was part of the planning and part of the mechanics of how the process would work. that they would scare the vice president into the action they wanted or disrupt the action and prevent him from being able to carry it out. obviously, he has no remorse about it. no concern that he was harming people, that this was nothing short of a riot, and he knew that was going to happen with armed people. so this is about a
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white house counsel will testify before the committee on friday. it will be transcribed and videotaped. we want to bring in the nixon john dean and watergate prosecutor nick ackerman. it is good to see about. jon kyl -- john you have been saying every time the name is been mentioned, there is a moral obligation to appear before the committee. now he will. tell me why it is important to hear from pat? >> the democracy is at stake. it is not a game. it is a terrifying situation. rather than honor the oath of office that he took, he has been trying to resist testimony and appearing before the committee. he had an informal session in april off the record. i don't even think it was sworn. he has now been negotiating as the terms under which you will testify. i don't get it. here is a guy that had the benefit of our democracy, he should be volunteering information so we can understand wha
white house counsel will testify before the committee on friday. it will be transcribed and videotaped. we want to bring in the nixon john dean and watergate prosecutor nick ackerman. it is good to see about. jon kyl -- john you have been saying every time the name is been mentioned, there is a moral obligation to appear before the committee. now he will. tell me why it is important to hear from pat? >> the democracy is at stake. it is not a game. it is a terrifying situation. rather than...
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and his hard work and uncanny ability would take him to nixon's side throughout the entirety of the historic 1968 campaign and into the white house on january 20th 1969. dwight has written a terrific new memoir. the president's man, which you can see here to my left and much of it deals with his work with president nixon. the president's man is without a doubt one of the most important contributions to the understanding of the nixon presidency and president nixon as a person that has yet been written. dwight will speak this evening with frank gannon. frank joined the nixon white house in the summer of 1971 as a white house fellow assigned to counselors to the president donald rumsfeld and bob finch. he then worked for john erlichmann on the domestic council staff. along with colonel brennan and a handful of other staff members. he was asked by president nixon to fly a board air force one on the final flight home to california on august 9th 1974. frank worked with the former president in san clemente for five years as richard nixon's chief editorial assistant organizing the researching and writing of his memoirs working with ken k
and his hard work and uncanny ability would take him to nixon's side throughout the entirety of the historic 1968 campaign and into the white house on january 20th 1969. dwight has written a terrific new memoir. the president's man, which you can see here to my left and much of it deals with his work with president nixon. the president's man is without a doubt one of the most important contributions to the understanding of the nixon presidency and president nixon as a person that has yet been...
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what does it mean to have a former president and his white house facing such an intense legal microscope, mr. nixon? >> this means we're in a phase of history we've never seen before. it was always presidents in office. the last time a former administration came under this kind of scrutiny was in the 1920s as a result of something called the tea pot dome scandal but the president was dead. it was warren grc. harding. >> i covered that, by the way. >> you won your first pulitzer prize. ageless. since then we don't investigate former presidents. they're gone. this is the first time we've investigated a former president and it raises the challenge because this is a former president who may run again. it's sunomeone who is still a political player. i just want to play this to give con context. this is merrick garland in the interview with lester holt. watch this. >> we pursue justice without fear and favor. we intend to hold everyone, anyone, who is criminally responsible for the events surrounding january 6th for any attempt to interfere with the lawful transfer of power from one administration to ano
what does it mean to have a former president and his white house facing such an intense legal microscope, mr. nixon? >> this means we're in a phase of history we've never seen before. it was always presidents in office. the last time a former administration came under this kind of scrutiny was in the 1920s as a result of something called the tea pot dome scandal but the president was dead. it was warren grc. harding. >> i covered that, by the way. >> you won your first...
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they did discuss, alyssa farah griffin, former white house director of strategic operations, and john dean, who was nixon white house counsel. i'm gonna start with you, because it was more than three hours -- andra seven minutes -- more than three hours. what president trump was doing or not doing what the capitol was under assault is gonna be hugely significant. do you think americans need to brace for what we may hear? >> well, i don't know. but i certainly know the committee has a pattern of increasing the focus of their investigation and sharing it with the american people with each hearing. so it's, in my mind, it's likely they will have a very real portrait of a man who has a deep responsibility to the country, and was in full dereliction of history. i think that's their task, and i expect they'll accomplish it. >> so, alyssa, you know the players, you worked in the white house. what are you learning tonight -- that one key person who will testify as matthew pottinger who sat on trump's security council. also, sarah matthews, she resigned from her post on january 6th. she's expected to testify. wha
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he is the former white house counsel to the nixon white house and cnn global affairs analyst, susan glasser which joins us as well. good evening both of, you thanks for joining us. john, you first. that video is something else, as they say. seeing trump's reluctance to condemn the violence the day after the insurrection plus the handwriting edits. and plus what everybody else was saying that he should do because of what it would do to his reputation and his legacy. what does the show about trump's feelings towards the insurrectionist and how damning is this new evidence, in your eyes? >> well it shows the insurrectionists were doing exactly what he wanted. it had played out exactly as he probably assumed it would. from early. i think this is part of the planning. this was part of the mechanics of how the process would work. that they would scare the vice president and to the action that they wanted, or disrupt the action and prevent him from being able to carried out. there is obviously, he has no remorse about it. no concern that he was harming people. and this was nothing short of a riot.
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thank you very much, i want to turn to the nixon white house council, john dean and watergate prosecutor, glad to have you both here tonight. it is really important about just the gravity assigned to a testimony from one, like a white house counsel. more than seven hours, i know compared to the way you testified in watergate and several days, eight hours a day it might seem like small potatoes, but the seven hours do you think it would of lasted that long if he was just saying privilege or the fifth, like flynn did at that moment in time. this means there was meat on the bone, right? >> i think there was given the time span involved. i can tell you from personal experience, decades later, i gave about 60,000 words in about seven hours of testimony. so, you can cover a lot of ground and it is very difficult for us at this stage to tease out what was or what was not really confirmed or what new information the committee, i think, smartly, is holding it very close to its vest. congresswoman did hint he was cooperative, there were no serious conflicts that appeared to her. but i think that i
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he was the president nixon's white house counsel and the star witness in the watergate hearings.n, it is so good to see you here today. >> thank you. >> everyone talks about the john dean moments and what might come and the stunning revelations that are there. let's talk about what we broke this hour in talking about the news, john, because we are learning about another conservative lawyer. not one's name we may have heard most recently, but a conservative lawyer who was pushing donald trump to engage in election interference and he mocked the idea that it be called a saturday night massacre or martial law. i wonder what you make of it, in particular? >> well, i was somewhat stunned by the story in the times this morning when i read it. in fact, i have the memo right in front of me today. i'm looking at it and pondering it. it's really very radical conservatism, the far right of the far right, and i think it's way out of line. >> well, i wonder, john, how this compares to other memos and we heard about the consequential ones up until now including things like how to have vice pre
he was the president nixon's white house counsel and the star witness in the watergate hearings.n, it is so good to see you here today. >> thank you. >> everyone talks about the john dean moments and what might come and the stunning revelations that are there. let's talk about what we broke this hour in talking about the news, john, because we are learning about another conservative lawyer. not one's name we may have heard most recently, but a conservative lawyer who was pushing...
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the nixon white house was accused of pressuring the then irs commissioner to target his enemies with tax audit during the time of the watergate scandal. >> one of the ways he abused presidential power was to to the irs i want you to do big, intrusive, bruising audits on my political enemies. >> reporter: a trump spokesman told the new york times that he had no knowledge of those audits. they have referred the matter to the treasury for review. >> thank you. >>> a texas woman accused of murdering a pro cyclist ran away to costa rica, change the way she looked, try to start a new life. they say that caitlin armstrong is now facing murder charges. she is in jail in texas on $3.5 million bond. at the news conference today, a deputy u.s. marshal said she went by three different aliases during a 43 day run. he said she confessed her true identity after her arrest. >> armstrong altered her physical appearance. she died her hair brown and cropped it short to about shoulderlength. she had a bandage on her nose where she claimed was from a surfboard incident just days before. >> here she is be
the nixon white house was accused of pressuring the then irs commissioner to target his enemies with tax audit during the time of the watergate scandal. >> one of the ways he abused presidential power was to to the irs i want you to do big, intrusive, bruising audits on my political enemies. >> reporter: a trump spokesman told the new york times that he had no knowledge of those audits. they have referred the matter to the treasury for review. >> thank you. >>> a...
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january six committee this week here to discuss -- former trump white house director of strategic communication. and john dean who was the nixonwhite house counsel. good evening to both of you. john i'm going to start with you. because for more than three hours, 187 minutes, more than three hours. would then president trump was doing or not doing while the capitol was under assault. it is going to be hugely significant. do you think americans need to brace for what we may hear? >> well i don't know. but i certainly know the committee has a pattern of increasing the focus of their investigation and sharing it with the american people with each day. so i know it is, in my mind, very likely that they will have a very real portrait of a man who has a deep responsibility to the country and was in full their election of his duty. i think that is their task. i expect they will accomplish it. >> so alyssa, you know the players, you worked in the white house. what are you learning tonight? that one key person will testify is matthew pottinger who sat on the security council. also white house aide, sarah matthews. she resigned her post
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now i want to bring in cnn contributor and nixon white house counsel mr. john dean, and cnn chief legal analyst mr. jeffrey toobin. good evening, gentlemen. jeffrey, the january 6th committee has snippets of outtakes the day after the riot. listen, this is what congressman adam schiff told me about it. watch. >> there are people urging him to say things to try to get the rioters, the attackers to go home. there are things that he can't be prevailed upon to do or say not for hours and hours. and then ultimately when he does give a statement still things he wouldn't say. so you'll have to wait until tomorrow evening to see precisely what that is. >> this could shed a whole lot of light on his state of mind in the wake of the riot. that could be revealed, right? >> yeah, don. so much of this investigation has been about former president trump's state of mind. you know, was he someone who was trying to just get the right answer about how the votes were counted? or was he doing whatever it took to get his vote total ahead of joe biden's regardless of what the a
now i want to bring in cnn contributor and nixon white house counsel mr. john dean, and cnn chief legal analyst mr. jeffrey toobin. good evening, gentlemen. jeffrey, the january 6th committee has snippets of outtakes the day after the riot. listen, this is what congressman adam schiff told me about it. watch. >> there are people urging him to say things to try to get the rioters, the attackers to go home. there are things that he can't be prevailed upon to do or say not for hours and...
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i want to bring in cnn's kara scannell, former nixon white house counsel john dean and former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe. nice to see all of you this evening. also, he is the author of the threat how the fbi protects america in the age of terror and trump. written by our guest here tonight andrew mccabe. kara, let me begin with you here. what are you learning about these missing text messages? >> good evening, laura. this is new reporting from my colleagues whitney wild back home. what sources tell them is the inspector general of the department of homeland security knew as early as may of 2021 that some of these secret service text messages were missing. that is seven months earlier than we had known that he was informed of this and more than a year before he informed the house select committee investigating january 6th. the secret service says that is due to a data retention, a data reset issue that they had when they collected these phones from the government employees, and they were doing some data migration. this is just one of many new details we're learning that raised more
i want to bring in cnn's kara scannell, former nixon white house counsel john dean and former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe. nice to see all of you this evening. also, he is the author of the threat how the fbi protects america in the age of terror and trump. written by our guest here tonight andrew mccabe. kara, let me begin with you here. what are you learning about these missing text messages? >> good evening, laura. this is new reporting from my colleagues whitney wild back home....
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i want to turn to the nixon white house counsel, john dean, and of course special watergate prosecutor nick ackerman. glad to have both of you here tonight. really important to think about just the gravity assigned to the testimony from white house counsel like pat cipollone. more than seven hours? john, of course i know compared to the way you testified in watergate over several days eight hours a day this might seem like small potatoes. but the fact that it was seven hours, do you think his interview with the committee would have lasted that long if he was just to be sable privilege or the fifth, kind of like flynn did at that moment in time. this actually means there may have been some meat on the bone, right? >> i think there probably was given the time span involved. i can tell you from personal experience decades later, check ing i gave about 60,000 words in about seven hours of testimony. so you can cover a lot of ground, and it's very difficult for us at this stage to tease out what was or was not really confirmed or what new information. the committee i think smartly is holdin
i want to turn to the nixon white house counsel, john dean, and of course special watergate prosecutor nick ackerman. glad to have both of you here tonight. really important to think about just the gravity assigned to the testimony from white house counsel like pat cipollone. more than seven hours? john, of course i know compared to the way you testified in watergate over several days eight hours a day this might seem like small potatoes. but the fact that it was seven hours, do you think his...
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the potential to be the john dean of the investigation, because john dean himself, president nixon's white house counsel, was the one who openly watergate investigation in 1973. he had urged cipollini to speak out. it is really an amazing turn of events that pat cipollone is now in this position. donald trump hired cipollone at the end of 2018 and that was to replace his first white house counsel don mcgahn. trump became dissatisfied with mcgahn after he tried to prevent the vice president -- mccarrick went on to cooperate extensively with the special counsel robert mueller's investigation. for his next white house counsel, he wanted a true loyalist, a true soldier. he chose cipollone, a right-wing roman catholic -- for a time cipollone played the part. he was trump's lead attorney in trump's first impeachment trial which you will remember was about the ex presidents attempt to corruptly misuse his power for his own political benefit. he solicited foreign help with the threat of extortion essentially to interfere in a free and fair election. and the democrats argued at the time, this is not some
the potential to be the john dean of the investigation, because john dean himself, president nixon's white house counsel, was the one who openly watergate investigation in 1973. he had urged cipollini to speak out. it is really an amazing turn of events that pat cipollone is now in this position. donald trump hired cipollone at the end of 2018 and that was to replace his first white house counsel don mcgahn. trump became dissatisfied with mcgahn after he tried to prevent the vice president --...
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back in 1970, the nixon white house created the epa to curb national pollution and look into the waysthat humans were harming the planet. here's a photo of the first epa administrator, william ruckelshaus, being sworn in with richard nixon by his side. imagine that today. in a 37 point message to congress next announced for the new epa to be able to set national air quality standards as tragic guidelines to lower emissions for motor vehicles. he sought legislation and the dumping of waste into the great lakes. he asked congress to approve a plan to tighten safeguards on the seaborne transportation of oil. at one time, republicans in america actually lead the charge on fighting for the environment. as for today, now many members of the party, including the conservative justices on the supreme court, see primarily concerned with rolling back the epa's regulatory power. this decision by the supreme court has global implications as well, as a new piece in the new yorker puts it, quote, this new jurisprudence would, in turn, make it even harder to achieve any international progress on risi
back in 1970, the nixon white house created the epa to curb national pollution and look into the waysthat humans were harming the planet. here's a photo of the first epa administrator, william ruckelshaus, being sworn in with richard nixon by his side. imagine that today. in a 37 point message to congress next announced for the new epa to be able to set national air quality standards as tragic guidelines to lower emissions for motor vehicles. he sought legislation and the dumping of waste into...
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. >> joining us, now richard nixon's white house counsel, john dean.u have been vocal in the past for the need for pat cipollone to testify. how much, or did his testimony change the dynamics of this investigation? >> we don't know yet, because we only have tidbits from this testimony. i was watching that clip, and thinking about the text exchange with my wife earlier. where we had a little trouble, kind of gagged on it. it looked to me like he was soliciting business from trump world. for those who are saying that anyway, which has been one of the problems with his testimony. we note, he did invoke the privilege, occasionally, in his testimony. anderson, we don't have a picture yet. i think next week is going to be the pat cipollone moment if there is one. and i look forward to it. >> do you agree with vice chair cheney, i sense you don't. that pat cipollone's testimony met expectations? you're saying it didn't go far enough in your opinion? >> i don't know how far it's gone. i don't know what their expectations were. so it's difficult to assess. i am
. >> joining us, now richard nixon's white house counsel, john dean.u have been vocal in the past for the need for pat cipollone to testify. how much, or did his testimony change the dynamics of this investigation? >> we don't know yet, because we only have tidbits from this testimony. i was watching that clip, and thinking about the text exchange with my wife earlier. where we had a little trouble, kind of gagged on it. it looked to me like he was soliciting business from trump...
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since the nixon, nixon white house. he has never been to the border ever. of texas, he is saying in the laredo area down to the valley, only 30% of border agents are on the border working. the rest are doing processing administrative work. so that has the drug cartels pouring in. your final word? >> i feel sorry for the border agents. they're not allowed to do their jobs. they have been taken off the border, taken away from what they were hired to do, the process, that is exactly right. they're doing logistics. they're not stopping illegal immigration. in fact the cartels are bringing people to the border patrol. they're not running from them anymore. that is the new policy of the biden administration. bring them, we'll take them. elizabeth: ken paxton, thanks for joining us. good to see you. >> thank you. elizabeth: the powerful new voter base, it is school board parents now mobilizing for the midterms. we take it on with byron york and jimmy failla next on "the evening edit". i had been giving koli kibble. it never looked like real food. with the farmer's
since the nixon, nixon white house. he has never been to the border ever. of texas, he is saying in the laredo area down to the valley, only 30% of border agents are on the border working. the rest are doing processing administrative work. so that has the drug cartels pouring in. your final word? >> i feel sorry for the border agents. they're not allowed to do their jobs. they have been taken off the border, taken away from what they were hired to do, the process, that is exactly right....
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nixon himself was involved. he just brought into it the white house. . >> nixon called me and said what you predicted that somebody was going to blow certainly appears to have happened. and i said i'm not surprised, but i said it's obviously not good. he said well, why don't you go up to camp david and collect your thoughts about how we deal with it. i said i'll talk to my wife. i think it's probably a good idea. but when i arrive up there, haldeman calls me and said, "john, while you're at camp david, why don't you write the dean report." >> this was another attempt to get me to write a bogus dean report way back in august 29th of the preceding year. nixon implied that i had written a report or given him a report. i never talked to the man about it. >> the counsel to the president richard dean indicates that no one on the white house staff, no one in this administration presently employed was involved in this very bizarre incident. >> the problem is they didn't want an honest report. they want a report that would make everything go away and be hunky-dory. and those would be a lie. this is something we can't do. i
nixon himself was involved. he just brought into it the white house. . >> nixon called me and said what you predicted that somebody was going to blow certainly appears to have happened. and i said i'm not surprised, but i said it's obviously not good. he said well, why don't you go up to camp david and collect your thoughts about how we deal with it. i said i'll talk to my wife. i think it's probably a good idea. but when i arrive up there, haldeman calls me and said, "john, while...
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at the watergate hearings in 1973, president nixon's white house counsel was the star witness. >> i said there was a cancer growing on the presidency. if the cancer was not removed, the president would be killed by it. >> reporter: history may repeat itself as soon as tuesday at the next public hearing where we may see cipollone testimony. in the meantime, the subject of the hearings is still holding rallies. he spoke last night in las vegas saying democrats are using laws to criminalize their political opponents. he also revealed that rudy giuliani was hospitalized this week. nbc news learned giuliani had two stents placed to fix a heart problem. peter. >> thank you, maura barrett. >> let's bring in danny cevallos. danny, good morning. we know pat cipollone spoke with the committee earlier this year. this was the first recorded formal interview. what could he have said in the hours of testimony? >> pat cipollone said we will get charged with every crime imaginable. if that is true and he said that to hutchinson who is a low level staffer, what are the odds that was the only person that
at the watergate hearings in 1973, president nixon's white house counsel was the star witness. >> i said there was a cancer growing on the presidency. if the cancer was not removed, the president would be killed by it. >> reporter: history may repeat itself as soon as tuesday at the next public hearing where we may see cipollone testimony. in the meantime, the subject of the hearings is still holding rallies. he spoke last night in las vegas saying democrats are using laws to...
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shouldn't be lost with anyone that he occupies the same seat that john dean occupied in the nixon white house. he could be a key witness in this and he has an obligation to provide the truth, to tell the country what was going on in the white house where he served as counsel to the presidency. >> matt miller, weigh in as well, could cipollone really be connecting the dots here for a lot of folks, especially as we look towards next steps per the doj? >> he very much could be. but i think the important thing will be what he's not willing to testify about. if in fact he's going to try to cabin his conversations with the president as he has in his previous testimony, remember, he's gone and talked to the committee already, just not in a transcribed interview. when he went previously he made clear the one thing he wasn't willing to talk about was any conversations he had directly with the president. of course his communications with the president is what's most relevant to the committee's inquiry. we heard cassidy hutchinson testify that pat cipollone told her that if the president went down and m
shouldn't be lost with anyone that he occupies the same seat that john dean occupied in the nixon white house. he could be a key witness in this and he has an obligation to provide the truth, to tell the country what was going on in the white house where he served as counsel to the presidency. >> matt miller, weigh in as well, could cipollone really be connecting the dots here for a lot of folks, especially as we look towards next steps per the doj? >> he very much could be. but i...
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but the real break was the nixon tapes and alexander butterfield losing. >> and carl, if butterfield had never been asked and answered the question of was there a white house tape, if those dates were buried to history throughout the administration would nixon have served up his full term? were they the factor that drove him out of office? >> we don't know, its history and at the same time you have to think without those tapes it's the tapes that ultimately made it impossible for richard nixon not to be held accountable. and one of the things, i think one of the awful legacies of watergate and there are too many awful legacies is the notion of the smoking gun. the idea that it was necessary to have a smoking gun when in fact there was so much evidence without that tape, that last tape from john dean's testimony, from some of the stuff we had reported. from what the watergate committee was able to do from the saturday night massacre was called . you didn't need the smoking gun and also goes to today. so i think this idea that you raise about did you really need it? he might well have escaped and yet the supreme court of the united states in a unanimous deci
but the real break was the nixon tapes and alexander butterfield losing. >> and carl, if butterfield had never been asked and answered the question of was there a white house tape, if those dates were buried to history throughout the administration would nixon have served up his full term? were they the factor that drove him out of office? >> we don't know, its history and at the same time you have to think without those tapes it's the tapes that ultimately made it impossible for...
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one day in june, john dean the third, richard nixon's former white house aide, testified before the senatehad essentially kept a political hit list. dean revealed nixon's now infamous enemies list. this was not just some list of foes that nixon kept in his head or scribbled on a napkin. the list was legitimized, and as an official memorandum, written by nixon's special assistant george t bell. and the first paragraph here says it all. quote, this memorandum addresses a matter of how we can maximize the fact of our intimates incumbency in dealing with persons known to be active in their opposition to our administration. stated a bit more bluntly, how can we use the available federal machinery to screw our political enemies. someone actually wrote that in a real metal. well class, are there any more questions about this? the list included members of congress, journalist, businessmen, entertainments, and democratic party donors. each subject was listed in order of priority, and next to each name was a freewheeling explanation about how and why they became an enemy of the state. it was like ni
one day in june, john dean the third, richard nixon's former white house aide, testified before the senatehad essentially kept a political hit list. dean revealed nixon's now infamous enemies list. this was not just some list of foes that nixon kept in his head or scribbled on a napkin. the list was legitimized, and as an official memorandum, written by nixon's special assistant george t bell. and the first paragraph here says it all. quote, this memorandum addresses a matter of how we can...
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jury could get through early and be in place at the white house with his colleagues at that point in time. but, during dinner, it wasn't president nixon. justice susan knew it would be, and the call came from the white house. but unfortunately, the call came in on our private, childproof line, which had no extensions. and by child proof, i mean that it came with a, kind of, death threat to any child that tried to use it. under the circumstances, susan naturally sprinted upstairs to the phone and called her father, and then things began to get really confused. president nixon told jerry, he wanted to speak to both of us, and as my husband, asked to please pick up the extension. that is the nonexistent childproof extension. attempting to remain cool and controlled, jerry explained that problem, and he said, you know, to the president, please, can you call back, giving him our phone number. [laughs] then, he hung up. he came back downstairs, and said, you know, president nixon is going to call back because he wants to also have you on the phone when he speaks to me. we waited what's seems like an eternity. to this day, i wonder what we h
jury could get through early and be in place at the white house with his colleagues at that point in time. but, during dinner, it wasn't president nixon. justice susan knew it would be, and the call came from the white house. but unfortunately, the call came in on our private, childproof line, which had no extensions. and by child proof, i mean that it came with a, kind of, death threat to any child that tried to use it. under the circumstances, susan naturally sprinted upstairs to the phone...
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white house with his colleagues at that appointed time. but during dinner the phone rang. and it was president nixon justice susan knew it would be. and the call came from the white house, but unfortunately the call came in on our private child-proof line, which had no extensions. and by childproof, i mean that it came with a kind of death threat to any child who dared to use it. circumstances naturally sprinted upstairs to the phone and called her father and then things began to get really confused president. nixon told jerry he wanted to speak to both of us and as my husband to have me please pick up the extension. that is the non-existent childproof extension attempting to remain cool and controlled jerry explained the problem and as he said to dig, you know, well he said to president the president, please can you call back giving him our other phone number? and then he hung up. we came back downstairs and said, you know president nixon is going to call back because he wants to also have you on the phone when he speaks to me. we waited what seemed an eternity? to this day. i wonder what we would have done if the other phone hadn
white house with his colleagues at that appointed time. but during dinner the phone rang. and it was president nixon justice susan knew it would be. and the call came from the white house, but unfortunately the call came in on our private child-proof line, which had no extensions. and by childproof, i mean that it came with a kind of death threat to any child who dared to use it. circumstances naturally sprinted upstairs to the phone and called her father and then things began to get really...