the nlrb it's not that it swroefr reaches, it shouldn't exist. government is supposed to be fair and street everyone the same. >> that's a good point. the question i wanted to ask juan if the nlrb is supposed to be independent, supposed to arbitrate these issues, why are they promoting the wruns to go out of the country and unionize in why would they get -- they're base dhee in the camp already. >> they're saying to people you can organize and protect your interests in your home country. in fact, i am amazed that you guys see this as -- >> why is our -- >> why is government involved in that? >> because we are doing business. this is a global economy and you cannot get away from that. this is not, you know -- >> juan -- >> just one last point to jonathan. that period when american wages and american workers did best, guess what the highest level of unionize. >> jonathan -- >> not in the late 1800s. >> haven't they already shown their hand? >> that's the whole point. why does the nlrb even exist? why does an arm of government that we are he a all p

. >> the nlrb has entered into agreements with mexico ecuador and the philippines to take workers from those countries with there rights with union organizing. house judiciary chairman says the administration tried to keep it quiet. >> the first set a news organizations have learned of it because the administration said they learned about it because of leaks material. >> the nlrb says under the labor act employees documented or undocumented are protected from retaliation due to the union or other protected activity. and in june 2011 the customs enforcement director issue this memo purpleheart officers and a special agents have to have appropriate discretion to make enforcement decisions in the cases of individuals engaging in a protected activity. for example union organizing. this could boost membership and activist says it will hurt citizen members. >> the union sells out the interest of american workers and in order to boost the membership. >> those who want to fire a worker here has a catch 22 they could be charged with violating the nlrb act because some will say they're doing it

lou: they are and now some folks are getting scared about could can we just learn that nlrb is signing agreements with governments to teach illegals how to unionize in this country that and i think -- >> that is high on our list of priorities with immigration. >> yep. lou: andy. >> i sort of don't have a problem with part of what they are doing, that is educational part. i have a problem with is part, where they will help illegals get visas if they get fired of i job because of union activities when they should not have been here in the first place that makes no sense. lou: it consistent with typical obama policy. >> yes. >> thank you. >> you are great. time for a look at our on-line poll results would you feel better about any perspective nuclear deal with iran if prime minister netanyahu was sitting in. 93% of you thought that was a good idea. see you tomorrow. good night from new york website. >> victors in battle of little bighorn, welcome an outsider in. >> once they trusted him they would share things with him. >> he paints their port rats and get -- portraits and gets inside sco

nlrb, the effect of obamacare.nk the failure to get the overall employment up with the lowest participation of the work force in over 30 years, since women have gone into the work force in substantial numbers, is a demonstration of the failure of the economic policies of the current administration. so my general principle, my operating principle, would be to get the government off the back of the economy. mark: we talked at the beginning of the program about biography and how governor bush talked about his, contrary to popular opinion, you were not born in a dark suit and red tie. so -- guest: you can't prove that. mark: talk to us about yourself, your family, your upbringing who you are as a person. guest: i don't think that ought to be part of the subject of discussion in presidential elections. but i realized i lost that debate 30 years ago. my father was a firefighter for the city of baltimore. my mother was a housewife. i'm very privileged to be the first person in my family to go to college. i attribute where

run over the president is controls the nlrb and they control the agenda of. is a wholly sincere the area of organized labor to see that intangible way every day. a republican and will reflect our values of opportunity and freedom. >> i am thinking we have been agenda and we have values. we may have the highest office in the land with the president but i am wondering how successful we will be if the progressives continue to have their control in the department of justice, irs from hhs national labor board, education they're backing the courts with progressives. there is no accountability. actually they all show contempt for congress with no accountability and they're not held to is a lot or the constitution. even the epa they want the power to tax that is the responsibility of congress. so how would a republican administration tries to curb the other elected or not even named bureaucrats and what they want to do to the american people? >> the nlrb changes overnight it is said direct response it is easy and it is done. here is what i don't understand about 39 r

we are waiting for the nlrb to roll. maybe some of these booster issues would go away. and the scholarship issue goes away and all these perks will go away. it's hard to really come it is a complex business problem that has to be solved. >> you're getting to the environmental issue. you need money to run it. >> i think it's fruitless to run. [inaudible] big time college sports where would you locate yourself on the spectrum from optimistic the pessimistic insofar as significant movement toward a solution? >> i'm optimistic because i'm in it to win it as the ncaa says. i think we are riding a wave right now that is pretty positive. as michael says the pot the o'bannon distance also involved in this next case he said the doors open a little bit to fix this. went to take it although it off the hinges. it's got to come all the way down and we're still a ways away from the. but big money, crud and there's television contracts already out for years so that's going to present a bit of a problem. but the conversation is alive and people are getting involved for the first time e

the nlrb will change, or probably end up changing the rules on these fast food restaurants.y'll say mcdonald's is the franchisee. that they're one and the same. a lot of people think this will be the final nail in the model. do you think that will destroy the franchise model. >> i don't know if it will. you're missing the fact a little bit. if walmart and mcdonald's which is in every town in america, if they're paying more, now all of a sudden the small employer will lose their employees to those companies that pay more and/or have to raise their wages. which means they'll get killed. it hurts the small company more than it hurts the big company. >> it hurts ma and pa a lot. that's a fact. >> absolutely. charles: let's talk about something else. when we exb com come back, we'll talk about the pe ratio. the holy grail of understanding valuation in the market. is it overused? we know you ask about it all the time. get out a pen and paper. we'll explain it as we make you money in three minutes. ♪ ♪ >> all right. the key valuation. the metric that everybody talks about. all the

charles: before okay b, b, nlrb will decide in next couple of days. >> it is good for mcdonald's. talk about walmart, they raise wages. it is a which of advantage -- competitive advantage, reduce their training cost, improve employee moral, i think it is a of when advantage -- competitive advantage if you can afford to do it. they will get a lot for that. charles: you supreme court with walmart yesterday. >> i did, they ma made though point, i try not to mayor what's walmart says, walmart in starbucks, starbucks, also raising wages, but i like that company for different reason. charles: walmart or -- >> starbucks, starbucks has great fundamentals. wealthier consumers are going out there, they are price amunto $5 coffee. charles: as a business person howard has been -- >> i am sticking with walmart, i like target, they are positioned better right now, but, i think if you are making more money in service industry jobs, and you are able to shop at target versus walmart, you are just going to target. a better looking chart. charles: have you been to either. >> i have both. i frequent

we are waiting for nlrb to rule. maybe these booster issues would goo away. then the scholarship issue goes away and all these perks go away. so it's hard to really -- it is a complex business problem. >> you're getting to the -- money corrupts. >> i think it's fruitless to try to control it so it's better several the relationship. that's my opinion. but mary is getting there. >> what? >> the immensity of the problem in big-time college sports where would you locate yourselves on the spectrum from optimistic to pessimistic insofar as significant movement toward a solution? >> i'm optimistic because i'm in it to win it, as the ncaa says. and i think that we're riding a wave right now that is pretty positive. as michael housefelled who fought opanon case he said the door is open a little bit to fix this. we have to take it off the hinges. it has to come all the way down and we're still a was away from that. but big money, corrupts, and there's a lot -- there's television contracts out three years so that's a problem but the conversation is alive and people are

>> i think mcdonald's, they're going to get slapped around by the nlrb.gas too, it's apparently sinking because of the drought, it sits on an aquifer. it's a loser for the city. david: job-seekers took it on the chin last month. we're seeing how badly they're hurting. winners, stephen, who is the winner? . >> i am going to basketball, tom izzo, seven final fours, amazing performance, go msu. david: matt? >> martin o'malley didn't do anything, running for president against hillary clinton openly which almost no other democrat is doing, while hillary clinton continues to sink like a stone in popularity. david: he's got some stones. liz, who's the winner. >> big tax hiker, too. the winner for me california farmers exempt from the water drought. the drought restrictions in california. david: absolutely. they get an exception, and my winner is iran's foreign minister, he returned home to these huge parades and cheers. this guy is a real hero for the moment. who knows what happens next week. steve moore, matt welch, elizabeth macdonald. thank you very much for

we are waiting for nlrb to rule. maybe these booster issues would goo away.then the scholarship issue goes away and all these perks go away. so it's hard to really -- it is a complex business problem. >> you're getting to the -- money corrupts. >> i think it's fruitless to try to control it so it's better several the relationship. that's my opinion. but mary is getting there. >> what? >> the immensity of the problem in big-time college sports where would you locate yourselves on the spectrum from optimistic to pessimistic insofar as significant movement toward a solution? >> i'm optimistic because i'm in it to win it, as the ncaa says. and i think that we're riding a wave right now that is pretty positive. as michael housefelled who fought opanon case he said the door is open a little bit to fix this. we have to take it off the hinges. it has to come all the way down and we're still a was away from that. but big money, corrupts, and there's a lot -- there's television contracts out three years so that's a problem but the conversation is alive and people are g

mcdonald's is very worried about how the nlrb will rule on that case.erms of a pr strategy of trying to get in front of that argument. as well as responding directly to collective action. >> briefly do, you think the president's work on this was helpful? >> every a little bit helps. especially the use of the bully pulpit, absolutely. i think if nothing else it encouraged those workers to keep taking collective action around their demands. >> dorian warren, as always, thank you for being here. you mentioned it was two years ago it started. chris hayes was interviewing you about it two years ago. one of the stories he has certainly stayed on. it's interesting to see some of the progress. thanks for joining us. >> thank you, ari. >>> that is "all in" for this evening. i'm ari melber. i've been in for chris this week while he was on vacation. he will be back on your screen tomorrow night in something you may have heard about. the updated all-in 2016 fantasy candidate draft. and chris hayes will be back in this chair live on monday. now, if you're looking fo

unionization and a substantial amount of bargaining going on outside what you would consider normal nlrb bargaining which is an important starting point for thinking about how to solve the problem is where we are today. justin's laid out a -- we've got sort of two equilibriums and we're stuck in the suboptimal one. but i'm curious what he thinks why are we stuck in the suboptimal one and does he need to be -- how do we get out of it. i'm curious what jacob and michael think. we've had what is essentially a long-running theme in the labor literature from, you know, the declining job opportunities of older men that started to take traction in the '80s, and we've essentially just seen labor share of national income drift lower for several decades even with the very tight robust labor market of the 1990s and what was also relatively low unemployment in the 2000s. that failed to arrest it too, which makes you wonder how able we are as a society or a market economy to do it now. >> yeah. before my colleagues respond just another plug for our briefing. in the last essay which justin did we have

the nlrb has made a few movements in that direction recently.he nlrb issued a rule on union elections in december that is very controversial on capitol hill. it takes effect in mid-april, and it will speed up union elections, elections on whether or not to join a union, and that is seen as advantageous to unions. but i do not think you will see a huge improvement for the middle class until you see more movement on those kinds of policies. host: going back to the minimum wage question, as you mentioned, several companies have announced they will be increasing the minimum wage. are we starting to see some wage pressure building the economy as more companies announce these types of measures? guest: --measures? guest: i think we are seeing a lot of things. as i mentioned before, a tightening that is partially a charitable to -- attributable to increases in the minimum wage. the federal government has not increased the minimum-wage, and it is hard to see that congress will. there is so much action at state levels that companies feel they have to rais

charles: nlrb will come down against them very shortly instead of franchisee and the franchise parentompany are one and the same. mary: and they wonder why the wages are priced. charles: this guy has done a lot of great things in a short period of time. we want to get back to the bird flu thing. 100 million chickens and turkeys. jeff flock has been following the story like nobody else. reporter: no, i don't think so charles and i am listening now to a conference call issued by the usda on the topic. mexico the largest importer of chickens from the u.s. i'll live earth and eggs to iowa. iowa is where the preponderance are reported. the three and a half thousand birds depopulated they call it essentially. that is one of your headlines today. the other is a turkey farm in wisconsin has had an outbreak that right now they are doing a pretty good job. this is coming to wild waterfowl. ducks and other birds are the source of the spread of this. not from one operation to another. at this point, no human the virus has not jumped too many humans. it is mainly a this point an issue with the bir

[indiscernible] >> my concern is how much is the nlrb regulation on businesses. the last regulation and came into effect yesterday, the ambush law, you know? the ambush election law. and also the one with trying to make joint employers with franchisees. i'm concerned that what they are doing what changed the face of business in this country. i would like to know, as president, how would you get the group under control? what would you do with new regulations? senator rubio: at the end of the day, all agencies are under the domain of the executive branch. president obama supports those policies, and that's why they are happening. presidential leadership can have a big role in how these play. an increasing amount of power and the federal government is held in the hands of unelected unaccountable bureaucrats. one of th ereasons of this is because the vast growth of regulation. members of congress often think that we are lawmakers, but most laws being passed in washington are nothing but authorizations for regulators to write more rules. there are different ways to br

lack of immunization in a substantial amount of marketing going on outside which we consider padded nlrb marketing, kind of an important starting point on how to solve the problem where we are today. justin played out the two-week equilibriums that we are stuck in the sub optimal point. i am curious what he thinks why are we stuck in the sub optimal one and it really need to be? i'm also curious about what jacob and michael think of is essentially a long-running thing in the vapor literature of the declining opportunities of older men that started to take traction in the 80s and wasting national income tricks lower for several decades even with the type robust labor market in the night the 90s and what was also relatively low unemployment. that failed to arrest the two, which makes you wonder how evil we are as a society or market economies to do it now. >> for my colleagues respond and other plug for the briefing. the last essay just invade, i should have this up on powerpoint. it will be up on the website. you do see the downward trend jonathan just mentioned, but incredible accelerati

whoever the president is, whatever party the president's from, controlled the nlrb. it controls the agenda. this norb is a subsidiary of organized labor. you see it intangible ways every day. republican will reflect our values, opportunities. not hard. sir. i'm thinking we have an agenda. we have values. we may have the highest office in the land. but i'm wonderfuling how successful we'll be if the progressives -- the national labor board education, they're stacking the courts with progressives. often, these bureaucrat, there's no accountability to law. they actually all show contempt for congress. and they have no accountability and they show contempt for congress. and they're not held to the constitution. even the epa, for example, themt the power to tax. that's congress' responsibility. so how would a republican administration try to curb these unelected in some case, unnamed progress progressive bureaucrats, wealthy executive branch in what they want to do to the american people? >> norb changes overnight. that's direct in response to last question. that happens

unionization, and a substantial amount of bargaining going on outside what you would consider normal nlrbt starting point for thinking about how some of the problems, where we are today. justin laid out a, you know we have two equilibriums and stuck in the suboptimal one. i'm curious what he thinks -- why are we stuck in a suboptimal one and does it need to be -- how do we get out of it. i'm curious what jacob and michael think, we had a essentially long running theme in the labor literature from the declining job opportunities of older men that was, you know, started to take traction in the '80s and seen labor share of national income drift lower for several decades even with the very tight robust labor market of the 1990s, and what was also relatively low unemployment in the 2000s. that failed to arrest too, which makes you wonder how able we are as a society or market economy to do it now. >> yeah. before my colleagues respond, just another plug for our briefing, in the last essay which justin did, we have figured nine -- i should add this up on power plant, sorry, it will be on the we

i want to come to you on this because i love talking about the national labor relations board, the nlrbrall your franchisees, and has stated in a "new york times" editorial the general counsel found the control exerted by mcdonald's made it a joint employer of its workers. at issue is whether mcdonald's will keep maximum control over franchises while disavowing responsibility for the franchise's workers. what's the significance of the national labor relations board weighing in on this question? >> mcdonald's has had a history of trying to hide behind their franchise owners essentially. there's no way that you can be mcdonald's and dictate how many staff need to be on staff at any given time be able to expand the high school and college completion be able to institute all day breakfast and then turn and and say but there's no way that i can raise wages for and give a union to the workers who work in franchise stores. what they're trying to do is they're trying to draw artificial distinction between franchisees and the corporate stores. but in reality, just because mcdonald's says that do

this morning where president obama vetoed a republican bill that would stop the streamlining from the nlrbo help organize unions. i was just wondering what your opinion on that is. guest: the agenda has been defined as many ways as possible to damage the labor movement, and whether they've been trying to promote my to work, the role of the national labor board, national labor relations board the only thing the labor movement ever wanted from the national labor relations board is a fair hearing and good time. they cut the budget of the board, they squeezed them down they tried to make it harder. look, the workers want to have the ability to have a voice at their work. they want the ability to come together and improve their lot in life. it is really disheartening when you see the level of misinformation there is about the role of trade unions. trade unions are simply a group of workers from workplace coming together to say to their employer that we want a voice and work and an opportunity to negotiate. if the ceo is allowed to have a contract, why aren't the workers allowed to have a contra