that's the way the environmentalists have presented it, nlrdc. two reasons i think this is a red herring issue. number one, already stated but true. in fact, we discussed it at the hearing about how long that heavy crude with benjamin has been transported through pipelines. it's been decades. so the a stated that, was asked then if you've done a study. you've done a study on something going on for 20, 30, 40 years, maybe even longer. if you wanted one, that's fine. let's go ahead with one. they already know the safety and soundness of heavy crude through pipeline using benjamin. so number two, this is interesting we keep talking about this leap frogging, like we're jumping over the environmental study. in fact, i can't jump that high. two feet of environmental impact for this route that they signed off on, had their input in, because of their experience with heavy crude and bitumen made some recommendations. here not just from them but others were 57 additional qu recommendations that are part of the final environmental impacts. so the work has b