heard some discussions about the international services agreement, and a discussion about mfn versus nmfn, and i know that the u.s. and the european union might have a different view on how to proceed on that. tell me a little bit about how those discussions are going and your views on whether mfn or nonmfn is what's going to accomplish. >> before i get to that specific issue, it's really important to emphasize some of the other speakers today have picked up on and that's that we should not overlook the significant of the excitement in agageneva right n about having this discussion about a possible agreement. this is the first time since i have been there that i have really felt that genuine sense that we have the potential to do something really significant and i think that intangible quality is something that we should take advantage of and really seek to build on. and so the u.s. along with the e.uu. and the other participants in this discussion are all working together in a very consti figure out how we resolve this piece of the puzzle. i think it's our view that we wish that the broa