. >> no nazis, no kkk, no fascist usa. >> heather never planned on counterprotesting until she saw cell racist chants at the torch rally. >> i saw actual videos of heather that day talking to a young lady from the alt-right, asking her why are you here? what are you doing? and the girl kept saying, no comment. but i have to hope that somehow the girl went home and thought, jeez, what the hell am i doing here? >> yeah. >> and maybe she'll remember that heather talked to her and have some soul searching then from that. >> oh, my god! >> how did you find out about heather's death? >> her friend justin called me and he just kept saying, i think she got hit by that car, and i kept saying what car? i don't know what you're talking about. he said the hospital, they need to find the next of kin. i said, oh, [ bleep ] -- so i called my parents. i said please pray. when we got to the hospital, two ladies grabbed me and walked me up and i walked in the room and the detective looked at me and he said, she was pronounced -- and i remember just putting my head down and sobbing so loud. for the first

there was no southern sheriff who would arrest a member of the kkk. there was no southern jury that would convict or white that would testify. there were hundreds, maybe thousands of murders of blacks that went on prosecuted. grant met a very crusading attorney general. ackerman brought 3000 indictments and got more than 1000 convictions. it was his greatest achievement as president. the kkk we know is from the resurgence of the clan from the 19 teens and 20s. and they borrowed a lot of the techniques and ideology of the original kkk. >> why were there so many corruption scandals was he complicit? did he turn a blind eye or was he just oblivious to what was going on? >> he was incredibly nacve.i will tell a story from his childhood. when he was a boy, his father wanted to buy a horse so he told ulysses to go to this farm and he gave him instructions. he said offer $20 to the farmer. if he doesn't take it off for $22.50. and he still doesn't take it, offer $25. so ulysses goes to the farmer and says my father says i should offer $20 and if you don't tak

there was no southern sheriff who would arrest a member of the kkk. there was no southern jury that would convict or white that would testify. there were hundreds, maybe thousands of murders of blacks that went on prosecuted. grant met a very crusading attorney general. ackerman brought 3000 indictments and got more than 1000 convictions. it was his greatest achievement as president. the kkk we know is from the resurgence of the clan from the 19 teens and 20s. and they borrowed a lot of the techniques and ideology of the original kkk. >> why were there so many corruption scandals was he complicit? did he turn a blind eye or was he just oblivious to what was going on? >> he was incredibly nacve.i will tell a story from his childhood. when he was a boy, his father wanted to buy a horse so he told ulysses to go to this farm and he gave him instructions. he said offer $20 to the farmer. if he doesn't take it off for $22.50. and he still doesn't take it, offer $25. so ulysses goes to the farmer and says my father says i should offer $20 and if you don't tak

no. birth of a nation is released in 1815 the sunday after thanksgiving stone mountain georgia the second kkk is founded to recover the great white empire of the south but not just the south it became a national phenomenon. why did the kkk get between three and 5 million members 1915 through 1926? how was that there were six governors or 17 senators or 75 congressman who remembers the kkk? how was that there were 103 ballots at the dnc driven by the fact 347 delegates who would not vote for al smith and irish catholic? how is it the 50000 klansmen marched down avenue? anxiety about crime? anxiety about a shifting economy from a largely agrarian and understandably industrial one to a more complicated one? the introduction of a national culture with the spread of radio 1921 think about it. if you were in a red state you totally control the media's information the experiences that your family had until about 1922. and then to have the world come into your home and to programming things in new york and hollywood. it was disorienting and a reaction to that disorientation was fear. and fear is what

there was no southern sheriff who would arrest a member of the kkk. there was no southern jury that would convict or white that would testify. there were hundreds, maybe thousa from georgia, ackerman brought 3000 indictments, thousand convictions against the clan and thrust the ku klux klan. it was his greatest achievement as president. the plan that we know is from the resurgence of the clan from the 1920s, the clan that has less to do with us because it borrowed a lot of and ideology of the original clan >> why were there so many corruption -related scandals in grants two terms in office? was he complicit? did he turn a blind eye or was he oblivious to what was going on? >> a story from his childhood that makes the point, unfortunately it didn't get much credit but his father wanted to buy a horse so he told ulysses to go to this farm and he gave ulysses his instructions. he said offered $20 to the farmer. if he doesn't take it, offer him $22.50 and if he still doesn't take it, offer 25 so grant goes to the father and says i should offer $20 for the

violence in its names are thugs including the kkk, neo-nazis and white supremacists that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as citizens. >> i guess it's nolater the president backtracked saying this. >> i think there's blame on both sides. you had a group on one side that was very bad and another group that was very violent. >> notice the difference between the first one that he was read [the seco ing and the second one where he really said what he meant, just rolled off the tongue? and joining us now. must be a lot of love going around, amanda. good evening, everyone. i hope you guys had a great restful labor day weekend. so adam, woodward reports that president trump called his revised statement on the charlottesville rally the biggest effing mistake i've ever made, you never make those concessions, you never apologize. i didn't do anything wrong in the first place. why look weak? okay, those were his words. that was stunning for what went on during that time. >> what we're talking about here is terrorist attack. the president thought it was a mistake to condemn a white supremacist terrorist attack because he was worried how it would p

no. birth of a nation is released in 1815 the sunday after thanksgiving stone mountain georgia the second kkkis founded to recover the great white empire of the south but not just the south it became a national phenomenon. why did the kkk get between three and 5 million members 1915 through 1926? how was that there were six governors or 17 senators or 75 congressman who remembers the kkk? how was that there were 103 ballots at the dnc driven by the fact 347 delegates who would not vote for al smith and irish catholic? how is it the 50000 klansmen marched down avenue? anxiety about crime? anxiety about a shifting economy from a largely agrarian and understandably industrial one to a more complicated one? the introduction of a national culture with the spread of radio 1921 think about it. if you were in a red state you totally control the media's information the experiences that your family had until about 1922. and then to have the world come into your home and to programming things in new york and hollywood. it was disorienting and a reaction to that disorientation was fear. and fear is what

no matter what. but we need to acknowledge that we have made significant progress. i write about this in the book. in 1920 there 106 million people and 4 million members of the kkk. it's about 3.8% of the population. in 2016 when we had 330 million people of the southern poverty law center estimated about 6500 members of the clan. the surrounding air. to go from that in 100 years to her rounding errors raising. to put it another way. i peppered the book with jokes, the wnba celebrated the 2016 season because of their success. the average attendance was 7644 people. on any given random game, the least popular game, there were 1144 more people at that game then there are members of the clan. we should be celebrating that. we shouldn't spike the football, but that's amazing progress for society as diverse as ours. yet, were told it's a racist country and we created micro aggressions. if i said america is the greatest country in the world and you happen to be born in scotland, somehow that's an affront to you to keep the fuel going in the outrage machine of we are a horrible country. it's really garbage. >> host: would you agree that it is a visual that sells on tele

no. but this is following the soviet playbook, the kgb, for example, is very, very well known that it tried to pose itself as a member of the kkk at one point. it also fabricated evidence that linked the cia to the assassination of john f. kennedy. it wasn't just ted cruz's father. it passed the material off to n unwitting conspiracy theorists in the united states. what the soviets did, a letter from low harvey oswald to a very little known cia operative. so, and the letter sate, any steps taken by me or anyone else. took plats ce in the 1970s. much better known, his involvement in watergate. i think much more worringly, the kgb trying to discredit the reverend martin luther king by placing articles portraying him as an uncle tom being secretly paid off by the government so lbj can control bhamartin luthe ki king. wrote about this in the 1990s. that's forgetting the context in which this took place. this was a time when malcolm x was calling dr. king an uncle tom also and other separatists just because dr. king sauought peace and assimilation rather than separatism. an interesting aside here, a lot of the cases i just cited wer

no matter what. we have to does we made significant progress. in 1929, i write about this in the book in 1920 there are 106 million people in the country, and 4 million members of the kkk, the big granddaddy racist organization. that's about 3.8% of the population. in 2016 when we at 339 people, the souther poverty law center of all places estimated there were about 6500 members of the klan. that is a rounding error in population. to go from that in 100 years to a rounding error is amazing. put it another way and this is i peppered the book with jokes to try to make it a fun a fun rea. the wnba celebrated the 2016 season because of their success in attendance. the average attendance was 7644 people. that means on any given random game, the least popular professional sport on a plant growth, there were 1144 more people at that game and are members of the klan in the whole country. we should be celebrating that. we shouldn't spike the football on the five-yard line. they're still racism but that's amazing progress for society as diverse as ours in 100 years. yet we are told this is a racist country. we had to create micro aggressions to type back your question, create so

no. it doesn't go back as far as bazaars but this is following the soviet playbook, the kgb, for example, is very well known that it tried to come and post itself is meant of the kkk at one point. it also fabricated evidence that linked the cia to the assassination of john f. kennedy . it wasn't just ted cruz's father. it passed the material often unwitting conspiracy theorists in the united states. what the soviets did it forged a letter from lee harvey oswald to a very little-known cia operative known by the name of e howard hunt. and the letter said, asking for any steps are taken by me or anyone else, so the forger took place in the 1930s when howard hunt was much better now because of his involvement in watergate. i think much more worryingly the kgb also tried to discredit the reverend martin luther king by planting articles portraying him as an uncle tom who was being secretly paid off by the government so lbj could control martin luther king. when they wrote about this in the 1990s said these are selling but is forgetting the context in which this took place. this was a time when malcolm x was calling dr. king an uncle tom also and other separatists just b