fundamentally if you look at those cases, the quetto case, with the current crew executive director noah bookbinder, this memo also focuses on, jim, in that case the underlying conduct was stuff that would have been legal, except it was done with corrupt intent. i mean, come on! the former president, the white house counsel, don mcgahn, to write a false memo lying about the investigation, anyone else would be prosecuted for this. bill barr wrote a memo to the white house before he was hired saying there were no crimes here. the fix was in. don't listen to me. two federal judges, one appointed by a democrat, one by a republican, have said that barr's conduct was dishonest and it was. >> norm, let me switch gears here. i know you're all fired up about this memo and there is a lot more to go through here, i encourage people to read it and understand, like, how critical it is even years later, but also important is what we have learned from the national archives and the fact that these emails show that they were really concerned about former president trump keeping all these boxes of documents, 24 boxe