host: noella rodriguez? the guest: very good points. in retrospect, in the 1970's when president ford pardoned president nixon, obviously, a lot of people reacted vehemently about the decision. but looking back all of these years later, it was a decision that was designed to help the country begin the healing process and to get past this very difficult time that we have just gone through. -- had just gone through. that in and of itself was a big deal for our country. if you couple that with president ford at the time helping betty ford to cope with the diagnosis of breast cancer, one can only imagine the challenges they had to go through as a couple, let alone as president and first lady, both with what was going on in their own home and across the headlines as well. host: i read an interview with betty ford that she was opposed to the pardon before president ford pardoned richard nixon. guest: a lot of people have very strong opinions about it. that would not surprise me. i have not heard that, but it would not surprise me. in retrospe