we're down in nogales az right nowso i'm just calling to see if we would be able to arrange an interview and a ride along with an agent out here. >> well, we've sent emails, about, starting about six weeks ago. >> and why is that? >> yeah. >> yeah, it just seems a little opaque like i'm just trying to understand why the request was declined. >> what's happened is that with the border patrol being one of the largest law enforcement agencies in the country, they work with a population that doesn't work back with them. they're not like a police force that's in the same community that has to deal with residents that are upset that can vote that can sort of mobilize against them. it's a population that almost everyone is going to be kicked out, going to wind up in mexico, and because of that there hasn't been any ways in which they have to modify their activities, so there's almost no oversight, which is compounded by this idea that this is part of national security. when someone looks at a case like jose antonio elena your like this does not have anything to do with national security! right?