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nokia's handset business last year is retiring the name saying, quote, nokia, as a brand, will not besed going forward. end of an era for nokia and finland, the birth place of nokia. >> it's now disappearing, huge blow. 90% of the people think it was a really, really bad thing. >> reporter: the prime minister of finland says microsoft is not the only culprit in the death of the nokia. the i phone killed nokia and the ipad killed the finnish paper industry. it once accounted for a quarter of fin issue growth. >> last year alone we lost 7,000 jobs around nokia. so many other companies are dependent on nokia. >> reporter: ad developers like angry bird maker are trying to reinvent the finnish economy. that will take time. the finns are far from finished. nokia is involved in other business but many are sad to see the phones go. >> many people out there will miss it. >> won't we all? >>> ivan cab repaira is hcabrer the weather. you and i are obsessed with our phones. >> i haven't changed mine for a couple of years. >> i have a nokia in the closet somewhere. >> a palm trio back in the day.
nokia's handset business last year is retiring the name saying, quote, nokia, as a brand, will not besed going forward. end of an era for nokia and finland, the birth place of nokia. >> it's now disappearing, huge blow. 90% of the people think it was a really, really bad thing. >> reporter: the prime minister of finland says microsoft is not the only culprit in the death of the nokia. the i phone killed nokia and the ipad killed the finnish paper industry. it once accounted for a...
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nokia mobile phones are about to go the way of the dinosaurs. at their peak in 2003 one in three phones sold around the world was a nokia. it was not able to keep up with the popularity of smartphones from apple samsung and others. microsoft completed a $7 billion purchase of the business in april. and microsoft announced it will replace the nokia name with its own, starting with the looumia range of smartphones. i'm joined by helen keegan, a mobile technology expert from london. are we surprised by this decision? >> no, we are not surprised. this has been a long time coming, and when we knew that the nokia business, handset business was solved to microsoft, it was inevitable that the name would go by the wayside as part of that. >> what about the agreements to keep the nokia name for a decade before changing it? why have they ditched it. >> nokia is kept in the infrastructure and mapping. we'll see it in telecoms, and nokia is a company and operational from finland, but not in the handset business. they have been pushing the looumia brand stron
nokia mobile phones are about to go the way of the dinosaurs. at their peak in 2003 one in three phones sold around the world was a nokia. it was not able to keep up with the popularity of smartphones from apple samsung and others. microsoft completed a $7 billion purchase of the business in april. and microsoft announced it will replace the nokia name with its own, starting with the looumia range of smartphones. i'm joined by helen keegan, a mobile technology expert from london. are we...
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you know, look, less than a year after agreeing with nokia and this deal that it will keep the nokiar up to ten years, microsoft says, you know what? we don't want that nokia name attached to these hand sets. why? what's the change of heart? >> well, the nokia brand has been really struggling in the past couple of years. especially in some key markets, the smart phone markets. if you look at the u.s. or western market, nokia has been doing very well at all. the lum ya brand is much stronger nowadays.ia brand is mr nowadays. >> for people who buy a microsoft hand set, basically inside, that hand set itself will actually be nokia technology? >> yes, yes. it's nokia technology, developed by nokia, but microsoft technology from now. >> we know the global picture of this market of mobile phones, smart phones is so fierce. even samsung is suffering. i mean, really, isn't it a bit late for microsoft to come to this party with its own hand sets? >> it might be a little bit late in terms of manufacturing hand sets, but microsoft has been in this space for well over like six, seven years, some
you know, look, less than a year after agreeing with nokia and this deal that it will keep the nokiar up to ten years, microsoft says, you know what? we don't want that nokia name attached to these hand sets. why? what's the change of heart? >> well, the nokia brand has been really struggling in the past couple of years. especially in some key markets, the smart phone markets. if you look at the u.s. or western market, nokia has been doing very well at all. the lum ya brand is much...
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while the board wound up ultimately agreeing with that -- >> they bought nokia. >> they bought nokia. by that time they had heard from my i will probably go whether you buy or not. >> rose: you already said that. >> yes. >> rose: why did you say that gifelt if we buy it, we'd had enough negative attention between us it would be better off giving it to a new leader, if the board wanted to buy it. and if the board didn't want to buy it, i wanted support and if you don't have it, sometimes it's time to go. they bought it knowing i would probably say this is a good time to hand off the leadership, not just of nokia but the whole company to a new leader. >> rose: it sounds like everybody signed on to that idea. >> yeah. at that stage. if we hadn't had our tumultuous discussion, who knows? who knows? but we did. and then i said, look, there's an advantage in this next generation of microsoft, my replacement calls it cloud first, mobile first. i think you can also call it devices and services because those are our new capabilities-- in this new world, let the new leader build this from the t
while the board wound up ultimately agreeing with that -- >> they bought nokia. >> they bought nokia. by that time they had heard from my i will probably go whether you buy or not. >> rose: you already said that. >> yes. >> rose: why did you say that gifelt if we buy it, we'd had enough negative attention between us it would be better off giving it to a new leader, if the board wanted to buy it. and if the board didn't want to buy it, i wanted support and if you...
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we bought nokia after that. the biggest up was doing surface. i love our partners. i love hp, dell, lenovo, but there are things you can do and be or complete in your vision, your feedback loop is tighter, customers tell you what they like and don't like much more quickly. i don't regret the journey or the fact that we are true menace the profitable by making operating system software for pcs, but relative to new form factors, like the phone, we should have moved faster. >> you make the argument that because your culture was about software, your dedication was software, it was what brought you there. >> absolutely. software is also the magic in the hardware. it's not even like you abandoned software. it's how you address it and make it beautiful. it is highly advantageous, particularly in these very small form factors to do hardware as well. not required. samsung does not make the android operating system. it comes from google. google just tries to monetize through searches. in most businesses today, this is trying to become more direct with their customers. that's
we bought nokia after that. the biggest up was doing surface. i love our partners. i love hp, dell, lenovo, but there are things you can do and be or complete in your vision, your feedback loop is tighter, customers tell you what they like and don't like much more quickly. i don't regret the journey or the fact that we are true menace the profitable by making operating system software for pcs, but relative to new form factors, like the phone, we should have moved faster. >> you make the...
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decision abouts nokia have to do if you leaving microsoft? had looked at buying phone companies for a few years. i started surface -- >> the tablet. >> pc that the tablet, tablet that's a pc. i establish that was some discomfort. didn't love it. the board was not sure about it. they went along. i was sure we needed to go this direction about probably 2009 or 2010. we needed to go further and faster particularly with this, so the first half, with the board's knowledge, i was having discussions with nokia about possible acquisition. they were already our partner. all windows phones were being produced by nokia anyway. where would that partnership go? the best thing to do for the partnership to strengthen our position would be just but the companies all the way together. i walked the board to right-thinking. a board set of discussions and we came to a meeting that ended up being a little tumultuous. details are probably not that important but there were some weird dynamics around it. it was not just about the marriage argument. we did not get --
decision abouts nokia have to do if you leaving microsoft? had looked at buying phone companies for a few years. i started surface -- >> the tablet. >> pc that the tablet, tablet that's a pc. i establish that was some discomfort. didn't love it. the board was not sure about it. they went along. i was sure we needed to go this direction about probably 2009 or 2010. we needed to go further and faster particularly with this, so the first half, with the board's knowledge, i was having...
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it was pretty inevitable that the nokia name woul would go bye wayside.will be ultimately consumers that decide. the windows environment is a nice way to use a phone and there is room for more traiting systems in the market, and one size does not fit all. not everyone will ever have an iphone or android phone or whatever it might be, but they are the third player and very small in comparison to android and iphone. that means they'll struggle. fortunately, they have deep pockets, so can get traction and pay for some of the marketing that's needed. the luminia brand is strong, but it's the x box name that is strong, not microsoft. >> let's find out about the weather now. just a few minutes ago, we saw barnaby in kiev shivering quite literally at what's in store for him. >> i think probably getting used to snow by the time we come to the weekend. a little bit of everything going on here at the moment. take a look at the satellite picture, huge, massive cloud into those central parts. remnants of our hurricane by the weekend. it's making its way across the ce
it was pretty inevitable that the nokia name woul would go bye wayside.will be ultimately consumers that decide. the windows environment is a nice way to use a phone and there is room for more traiting systems in the market, and one size does not fit all. not everyone will ever have an iphone or android phone or whatever it might be, but they are the third player and very small in comparison to android and iphone. that means they'll struggle. fortunately, they have deep pockets, so can get...
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according to the company's facebook page, microsoft will retire the nokia name. the brand will be known as "microsoft lumia" going f microsoft bought nokia's handset business last year for 7-point-2 billion dollars. microsoft has declined comment. chatrooms may seem like a thing of the past but facebook has planned a come- back. the company is launching a new free app called "rooms." it became available today and allows you to create and join chatrooms based on shared interests. app users aren't required to use their real names and can customize them for different chat rooms. next in sports jay cutler talks about brandon marshall's outburst for the first time and, his new and third album is due out november 4th. live music from mark cline bates! live music from mark cline bates! im time for sports. the blackhawks were nearly perfect to start the season, earning nine of a possible ten points in the first five games. now they're on the road for two games without corey crawford. the hawks took an early lead in nashville. marcus kruger puts the puck on net and ben sm
according to the company's facebook page, microsoft will retire the nokia name. the brand will be known as "microsoft lumia" going f microsoft bought nokia's handset business last year for 7-point-2 billion dollars. microsoft has declined comment. chatrooms may seem like a thing of the past but facebook has planned a come- back. the company is launching a new free app called "rooms." it became available today and allows you to create and join chatrooms based on shared...
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. >>> still ahead, no more nokia. you may remember, these trusty old phones. the brand that once dominate the market is gone. >> plus, not exactly under the weather. the most outrageous excuses people are using to call in sick and the most common ways they get caught. ,, ♪watching everybody eating ♪what they want all day ♪oh this tasteless cardboard ♪brings me nothing but more shame ♪ ♪turning every turn until i find something right♪ ♪and it...takes my breath away lopreventable medical errors,hey all lnow the third leadingse of cause of death. only heart disease and cancer take more lives. proposition 46 will save lives with drug and alcohol testing to make sure impaired doctors don't treat someone you love. safeguards against prescription drug abuse. and holds the medical industry accountable for mistakes. i'm barbara boxer. let's save lives. vote yes on 46. the liquidation sales have already started. some of >>> say good-bye to the kmart store in san leandro. they will be closing that down in december. the liquidation sales have already begun. some of the 10
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but he's got a lot to deal with, wrestling with the acquisition chief among nokia them.ut also chaining the culture of microsoft to be more collaborative. it's interesting, the messaging about products was so much about collaboration and software to help you get things done which is a knock on people working on microsoft that they don't collaborate enough. he's thinking about how that works internally as well as externally. >> let's talk about collaboration. that company that's grown so much over the years yet there was a big round of layoffs recently. how is morale? how is culture at microsoft? and does he have the support of the troops? >> i think counterintuitively, the layoffs made things more efficient. look, it's hard to have friends of yours you've worked with for years no longer be with with the company. but i think there's streamlining and efficiency there. add to that a significant boost in the stock price this year and good, solid results, and i think you've got a little bit of swagger going on at microsoft. not to the point, you north -- not to the point of e
but he's got a lot to deal with, wrestling with the acquisition chief among nokia them.ut also chaining the culture of microsoft to be more collaborative. it's interesting, the messaging about products was so much about collaboration and software to help you get things done which is a knock on people working on microsoft that they don't collaborate enough. he's thinking about how that works internally as well as externally. >> let's talk about collaboration. that company that's grown so...
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. >>> it was one of the world's best known brands but now nokia cellphones are about to go the way ofdinosaurs. but they lost their lead to smart phones like apple and samsung. now microsoft has announced it will the start replacing the nokia name with its own starting with the lumia range of smart phones. now, helen keegan is an independent technology expert and says it's still not clear how much microsoft stands to gain from this move. >> this has been a long time coming and when we knew that the nokia building had been sold to -- the lumia brand is strong and combining it may work but only time will tell. the windows phone environment that we've seen microsoft come up with is a nice way to use a phone and there is room for more operating systems in the market and one size does not fit all so not everyone will ever have an iphone or an android phone or whatever it might be. but they're the third play and are very small in comparison to both android and iphone meaning they are going to struggle. fortunately they have deep pockets meaning they can get traction and pay for the marketin
. >>> it was one of the world's best known brands but now nokia cellphones are about to go the way ofdinosaurs. but they lost their lead to smart phones like apple and samsung. now microsoft has announced it will the start replacing the nokia name with its own starting with the lumia range of smart phones. now, helen keegan is an independent technology expert and says it's still not clear how much microsoft stands to gain from this move. >> this has been a long time coming and...
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nokia tones started in finland. in just last year finland lost 7,000 jobs around nokia because so many other company companies were dependent on that brand. >>> it's 4:51. a san francisco tour bus company responds following a racist rant by one of its guides. coming up in 20 minutes what that company is saying and how high profile city officials are saying. >> also you may have seen them where you live. how the bay area compares to other big cities when it comes to rat infestations. >>> welcome back. it's 4:54. detectives in fremont are asking for the public's help to find a robber that snatched a gold chain from an elderly woman. here's a picture of the suspected robber. police identify him as 20-year- old de andre mccloud of hayward. he and another person robbed the woman on october 5th. when the woman's husband tried to chase him down, mccloud fired three warning shots into the air. police say that he may be staying in oakland or hayward and considered armed and dangerous. >>> several law enforcement agencies are
nokia tones started in finland. in just last year finland lost 7,000 jobs around nokia because so many other company companies were dependent on that brand. >>> it's 4:51. a san francisco tour bus company responds following a racist rant by one of its guides. coming up in 20 minutes what that company is saying and how high profile city officials are saying. >> also you may have seen them where you live. how the bay area compares to other big cities when it comes to rat...
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and nokia was really big in india at the time. 7 out of 10 phones were a nokia phone. so i had like hundreds of ideas buzzing. we can do this. the phone can have this. and this button here and have this and that and this and that. and he sort of poured it out to my boss who listened patiently. and thought yeah, okay. then he said, mishkin, this time, the mobile phone business is not about mobile phones. i didn't quite get it. i was a young kid who liked technology and all that. slowly i started to understand. but it hit home to me once. i was in a shopping mall in south delhi, negotiating a contract, and i went out of his office. i was walking through the mall. and a nice big mall. very plush. i could see different brands. see big holdings. i could see people walking fast. getting into the shops. glass. it was wonderful. and finally, i started getting it. everything moving in slow motion. like the matrix. i could see how it worked. i could see that it was not about technology. it was about the phones and washing machines. it was not about any of that at all. i could se
and nokia was really big in india at the time. 7 out of 10 phones were a nokia phone. so i had like hundreds of ideas buzzing. we can do this. the phone can have this. and this button here and have this and that and this and that. and he sort of poured it out to my boss who listened patiently. and thought yeah, okay. then he said, mishkin, this time, the mobile phone business is not about mobile phones. i didn't quite get it. i was a young kid who liked technology and all that. slowly i started...
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it is first quarter of full impact of nokia acquisition.iven the rise in the stock there, is still lots of problems in microsoft, right? there are booed things with the cloud and enterprise business but boy, the hardware business is really lackluster. liz: we're take about surface. that is hardware business. said i'm not dying to wake in there. but the nokia purchase, which was not cheap, what will come from that. >> what will come from that is a lot of headcount reductions. they will reduce headcount by 18,000 people. 14% of total. that is a material reduction. that ask coming from the newly acquired nokia acquisition. you hate people getting switched out but windows phone doesn't have traction. here is the interesting stat. world's largest operating system would be windows but on units shipped, we'll ship over billion android smartphones. that is more than three times as many pc's sold. google is overtaking this business. look at amazon, the top 13 laptop sellers five of those are chrome books. google is chasing after core of microsoft's
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breaking members from nokia. the company's third-quarter net sales beat estimates.he net sales came in at 3.3 billion euros. figure, 747income million euros which was the thet net profit since fourth quarter of 2012. nokiaould suggest that has turned the corner. nokia is a different beast than what it was six or seven months ago. >> the company ceo saying the company is moving in the right direction. the productbout nokia has. this is a product that is designed to talk -- cap into that. and the adjusted margin was 13.5%. it says for the year the adjusted operating margin for division which accounts for 90% of sales will be slightly above 11%. all figures looking for an improvement. plenty of data to digest. the latest flash pmi survey from hsbc's shows chinese menu fracturing expanded more than expected. we will get data on how european manufacturing fared this month from the latest pmi figures released in the region. jp earlier this week which beat estimates. exportation has been strong. we it all out for us. >> it is thusly soft data but not as soft as people were
breaking members from nokia. the company's third-quarter net sales beat estimates.he net sales came in at 3.3 billion euros. figure, 747income million euros which was the thet net profit since fourth quarter of 2012. nokiaould suggest that has turned the corner. nokia is a different beast than what it was six or seven months ago. >> the company ceo saying the company is moving in the right direction. the productbout nokia has. this is a product that is designed to talk -- cap into that....
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and one of those is nokia moving higher. the company posted better than expected third quarter earnings. and also raised capital spending by 25 percent as a result. you can see the shares up nearly 7% and the stock up about 6% for the year carl. back to you. >> thanks dom. what a day for the markets with the dow up 272, one percent most of the morning. art cashin is here. he joins us at post nine. art, good morning. >> good morning. >> not easy to move 3m six or seven percent in one day. hasn't happened in a few years. >> scotch tape usually stick where is you it put it. there is a spate of short covering and i think some of these hedge funds who were out trying to play the volatility we saw last yeek and now that's gone. the year coming to an end. the bears have a short runway, the week after option expiration in october usually is strong and then the months in november and december have a history of being strong. so even the die hards who went the sell in may and go away, that's coming p up too. i think some of the hedge f
and one of those is nokia moving higher. the company posted better than expected third quarter earnings. and also raised capital spending by 25 percent as a result. you can see the shares up nearly 7% and the stock up about 6% for the year carl. back to you. >> thanks dom. what a day for the markets with the dow up 272, one percent most of the morning. art cashin is here. he joins us at post nine. art, good morning. >> good morning. >> not easy to move 3m six or seven percent...
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. >> and twin nokia late. you send the first lady there. it keeps the sense that democrats have their eye on that ball >> i bet there will be polling done and you may see some movement. it may surrogates helping. if republicans think there may be a tied because of ebola and crises they need to worry there could be some surprise there. >> returning to our race to watch from yesterday, a new poll out today that shows i was in the candidates -- the iowa senate candidates tied. the most exciting thing is the switch to jitterbuging. check out this ad from the chamber of commerce. >> he claims he is a farmer. but he is really a child -- trial lawyer. >> i have no idea what the connection is. the democrats have said their big game. today, republicans are crawling. have republicans neutralized the biggest democratic advantage? >> there is no doubt the republican party has been in decline. democrats have sent in obama twice. these early vote numbers seem to suggest republicans are at least digging into and maybe overtaking the democratic advantage.
. >> and twin nokia late. you send the first lady there. it keeps the sense that democrats have their eye on that ball >> i bet there will be polling done and you may see some movement. it may surrogates helping. if republicans think there may be a tied because of ebola and crises they need to worry there could be some surprise there. >> returning to our race to watch from yesterday, a new poll out today that shows i was in the candidates -- the iowa senate candidates tied....
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. -- surprisingly, gnocchi a nokia d nintendo struggling right now, so it is not a great story for allyou look at up-and-coming brands, facebook had in 80% increase in value this year -- and 80% increase in value this year. >he you brought up, gnocchi a -- have and nintendo that undergone a swift, punishing decline in value, what does that teach us? is brand value that ephemeral? >> brand value actually tends to defend a company. when you have not got your product right, they help defend you, but there's only so far you can go if you do not have a brand that really connects with human beings and products and services that they really want. in the technology industry, like innovation is really key. somewhere along the line, those brands lost connection with their customers, did not have latest products they wanted, and can see that their brand is ultimately being affected. >> is it fair to say the brand question is creating a possibility that you could see shortening of these brand lives when you see technology shifting so quickly? when year, a high-performance technology company, and t
. -- surprisingly, gnocchi a nokia d nintendo struggling right now, so it is not a great story for allyou look at up-and-coming brands, facebook had in 80% increase in value this year -- and 80% increase in value this year. >he you brought up, gnocchi a -- have and nintendo that undergone a swift, punishing decline in value, what does that teach us? is brand value that ephemeral? >> brand value actually tends to defend a company. when you have not got your product right, they help...
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microsoft, which bought nokia last year, is retiring the name nokia. >>> areynolds american has bannedng in factory floors, fateness centers -- in fitness centers. a spokesman says the company is making the changes because most people today expect a smoke- free work environment. they realize the irony. reynolds american is the second largest manufacturer in the u.s. it makes pall mall, camel and cool. >>> sal is normally in the building with us. you are on the phone. you are in the dugout. >> i'm -- >> what are you doing? >> i'm sending out a tweet saying i'll going to be doing a report in the dugout. the tweet just went out. >> there you go. >> reporter: now i can do my report in the dugout. remember social media is important. let's take a look -- >> get comfortable, sal. >> reporter: let's take a look -- i am comfortable. >> i know. >> reporter: i just hit a home run. i'm gonna sit down. these people walking by are the national media setting up the big stationses espn, fox. it's the world series. it's a big deal. let's take a look at the toll plaza -- >> quick question. how does it f
microsoft, which bought nokia last year, is retiring the name nokia. >>> areynolds american has bannedng in factory floors, fateness centers -- in fitness centers. a spokesman says the company is making the changes because most people today expect a smoke- free work environment. they realize the irony. reynolds american is the second largest manufacturer in the u.s. it makes pall mall, camel and cool. >>> sal is normally in the building with us. you are on the phone. you are...
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nokia claims tax exemptions on software exports, an allegation the company is challenging. the world's largest retailer is to stop providing health insurance to some 28,000 part-time workers in the united dates. the company said the decision was made on cost grounds. companies in the u.s. say they are paying more in the -- more -- more. >> he has given up his bonus over unrest among his staff. >> you agree to forgo his bonus of almost $95,000. there was a cost-cutting program at the bank, but many staffers complained that the lender is left in chaos. the bonuses had come in for some criticism. the news of him giving up his bonus was met by applause from staff members in washington. >> some angry birds have been causing trouble for one african airline. >> real angry birds. this low-cost carrier says a number of its flights from tanzania have been disrupted by an unprecedented number of bird strikes. ironic that there symbol -- theikr r symbol is a bird. these incidents required extra inspection and repair work which caused delays and cancellations. they do expect normal serv
nokia claims tax exemptions on software exports, an allegation the company is challenging. the world's largest retailer is to stop providing health insurance to some 28,000 part-time workers in the united dates. the company said the decision was made on cost grounds. companies in the u.s. say they are paying more in the -- more -- more. >> he has given up his bonus over unrest among his staff. >> you agree to forgo his bonus of almost $95,000. there was a cost-cutting program at the...
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. >> still got the deadweight of your former girlfriend, nokia. >> talking about nokia, for all the people who don't know who i was dating. i dumped her a little late. i think this stock is trading at around 16 times 2015, based upon at least where the street has it. that's not cheap. and for just -- i wonder where the catalysts are in the short term for a stock trading near its highs. the one thing i like about this is i see the street in the fourth quarter is looking for big cap defensive tech. that's worked much of this year, even if their earnings hadn't been spectacular. there's nothing to run away from in terms of their earnings here. >> we've got an earnings alert here on pandora. let's get to dom. >> those shares are down about 7%. the company is posting better than expected third quarter results. the internet radio company said that total listener hours rose 25% to 4.99 billion in terms of hours, while active listeners gained about 5% to 76.5 million. those numbers, both of them, were both just slightly below analysts' expectations. as a result, shares down by about 7%. so good to
. >> still got the deadweight of your former girlfriend, nokia. >> talking about nokia, for all the people who don't know who i was dating. i dumped her a little late. i think this stock is trading at around 16 times 2015, based upon at least where the street has it. that's not cheap. and for just -- i wonder where the catalysts are in the short term for a stock trading near its highs. the one thing i like about this is i see the street in the fourth quarter is looking for big cap...
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this, after the firm took a more than $1 billion charge related to layoffs in the nokia hand set division. shares were actually strong there, and the market moving sharply as you see there in the after hours. bertha, once again at the nasdaq, the big takeaway from you from these numbers from mr. so softy. >>> microsoft is cool again, satya na deadnadelli took over, away from the software sales and packets to on the cloud, where things are moving. also moving towards mobile. it shows he is starting to change this big ship around, and for now, the honeymoon continues for him. >> all right, bertha, thank you so much for reporting on both of those companies. now, let's bring in david garretty to talk more about amazon and microsoft. david let me just start off saying i know going into turnings reports you were not recommending microsoft or amazonme amaz me that you see the stock up and down, have you changed your opinion? >> well, in terms of amazon we still would be probably avoiding the stock more as a holiday year-end shopping trade just given the disappointment we were seeing in terms of
this, after the firm took a more than $1 billion charge related to layoffs in the nokia hand set division. shares were actually strong there, and the market moving sharply as you see there in the after hours. bertha, once again at the nasdaq, the big takeaway from you from these numbers from mr. so softy. >>> microsoft is cool again, satya na deadnadelli took over, away from the software sales and packets to on the cloud, where things are moving. also moving towards mobile. it shows he...
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. ♪ >> this one you might recognize, the old classic old school nokia ring tone.. ♪ this is a tough one. >> okay. just give me a second. ♪ >> yeah, you got it! >> i'm hearing fields of gold right now. >> yeah. >> we're also getting our first look at ron howard's latest film in the heart of the sea portraying a real life event that inspired herman melville's classic "moby dick," it starts with chris hemsworth getting a little shipwrecked. ♪ >> really excited to see that one and ron howard is a genius. should be good. >> hope he got me. thank you, louis. >>> let's get your responses to our twitter question. we asked you your thoughts about media coverage so far about ebola, if you feel properly informed? we have some of the best responses. justine what are people thinking? >> shade said i wish news channels would stop trying to present ebola as end of days, i need information, not theatrics. rich tweets, i think reporting every possible case is too much, but the graphic that you just put up should help people understand. that's the one we put up earlier about the eb
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and nokia was really big in india at the time. 7 out of 10 phones were a nokia phone. so i had like hundreds of ideas buzzing. we can do this. the phone can have this. and this button here and have this and that and this and that. and he sort of poured it out to my boss who listened patiently. and thought yeah, okay. then he said, myshkin, this time, the mobile phone business is not about mobile phones. i didn't quite get it. i was a young kid who liked technology and all that. slowly i started to understand. but it hit home to me once. i was in a shopping mall in south delhi, negotiating a contract, and i went out of his office. i was walking through the mall. and a nice big mall. very plush. i could see different brands. see big holdings. i could see people walking fast. getting into the shops. glass. it was wonderful. and finally, i started getting it. everything moving in slow motion. like the matrix. i could see how it worked. i could see that it was not about technology. it was about the phones and washing machines. it was not about any of that at all. i could se
and nokia was really big in india at the time. 7 out of 10 phones were a nokia phone. so i had like hundreds of ideas buzzing. we can do this. the phone can have this. and this button here and have this and that and this and that. and he sort of poured it out to my boss who listened patiently. and thought yeah, okay. then he said, myshkin, this time, the mobile phone business is not about mobile phones. i didn't quite get it. i was a young kid who liked technology and all that. slowly i started...
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the bulk of the market which was once dominated by nokia in places like india. to sell aying smartphone phone to them, you will have to bring down the cost , otherwise you will not find your audience. that is why you find cheaper android-based devices. >> when you are saying we should focus on the middle class in india, the percentage of the middle class as connected to the internet, are you saying that we should not suspect the lower cost to come online soon? >> they can easily, online beuming you can have them connected with a mobile device that is cheap in price. the rest of the population that i mentioned, they actually have just normal phones. they are the ones where the handsetity is for these providers, to be able to connect them with lower-cost devices. with that, you would see a lot more services being offered including cloud services. >> thank you so much for joining us. we want to get a check on stories making headlines with mark crumpton. what else is going on? >> hong kong's democracy protests go for a six day. student leaders renewed demand for res
the bulk of the market which was once dominated by nokia in places like india. to sell aying smartphone phone to them, you will have to bring down the cost , otherwise you will not find your audience. that is why you find cheaper android-based devices. >> when you are saying we should focus on the middle class in india, the percentage of the middle class as connected to the internet, are you saying that we should not suspect the lower cost to come online soon? >> they can easily,...
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they are facing very tough competition and a new breed of competitors and nokia and elegy. lg. new private copies that have very rich and governments from their home aomitries in particular xi and they are pricing samsung out. >> subsidies rolling out of china. >> it as pressure overall. for appleh pressure to go up with a screen sized story going to affect? >> i do not think it makes a huge deal. out for had been there with samsung competing. up kind ofing catches up a bit. samsung thehelp does not materially shift. not anybody posing a serious threat to them. i do not see things changing much. it is all the low end. the chinesewhere are making $100 handsets but have high-end chips. the same compresses the going to the falls -- they goes into the fault of the developed markets are making. i do not think they can do it. >> we will leave it. nice to see you. .ech specialist, james gautrey knifeafter the swiss army maker has been stagnating. the company is revamping itself. hans nichols visited its factory to see how the business and plans to cut through its problems. an iconic r
they are facing very tough competition and a new breed of competitors and nokia and elegy. lg. new private copies that have very rich and governments from their home aomitries in particular xi and they are pricing samsung out. >> subsidies rolling out of china. >> it as pressure overall. for appleh pressure to go up with a screen sized story going to affect? >> i do not think it makes a huge deal. out for had been there with samsung competing. up kind ofing catches up a bit....
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paris approved for this german at least to be feared by nokia some of you natzism but he thought he wassatisfying his loneliness, suspicion and later the threat of assassination that was heavily on both of the officers and the stations in paris. he recognizes no matter the surface the city underneath was like a hidden wasp's nest, and unidentifiable buzzing kept everyone on edge. he would refuse the hiding place of his friend but he would leave a piece of themselves in paris. under a tree he buried a tin box filled with notes and a diary. in 1948 he returned for the first time since the war but he never was able to find his buried treasure. a part of his past way to hitting the resurgent paris. thank you. [applause] my book has anecdotes like that. i found in interviews and newspapers etc. i've tried to show how complex it is and isn't just black versus white but very gray and you have to be careful when you are reading the memoirs of the german survived the war and the suspicions. you have to be suspicious but there are still was a tone many folks have no sympathy for. are germans, did
paris approved for this german at least to be feared by nokia some of you natzism but he thought he wassatisfying his loneliness, suspicion and later the threat of assassination that was heavily on both of the officers and the stations in paris. he recognizes no matter the surface the city underneath was like a hidden wasp's nest, and unidentifiable buzzing kept everyone on edge. he would refuse the hiding place of his friend but he would leave a piece of themselves in paris. under a tree he...
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recientemente el escenario con su padre y sus otras dos hermanas cuando el buki se presentÓ en el nokia> sabemos que cantaste con tu papÁ, cÓmo fue eso? >> fue muy divertido, estoy muy feliz que pude hacer eso, un sueÑo hecho realidad. >> y con tus otras hermanas. >> sÍ, tambiÉn, me sentÍ muy cÓmoda con ellas, cuando estoy sola me siento medio nerviosa, esta fue la primera vez cantando en un escenario grande como nokia, me sentÍ muy cÓmoda, pero despuÉs me emocionÉ y empecé a llorar, fue de Último minuto, ensayamos como dos veces. >> quisieras hacer un disco con tu papÁ? >> por supuesto, me encantarÍa. >> banda, pop? >> pop, y tambiÉn baladas. >> te han visto en las redes sociales hablando con un muchacho sÁnchez, un noviazgo? >> no, somos buenos amigos. >> yo quiero que mis hijas sean felices en lo que sea que hagan, pero que sean felices con la decisiÓn que ellas tomen, yo las voy a apoyar incondicionalmente, pero no sientan la presiÓn de tomar un camino, es lo mÁs importante, no ser la mamÁ obsesiva, porque hay mamÁs que quieren que sean cantantes desde que estÁn gateando,es mucha pr
recientemente el escenario con su padre y sus otras dos hermanas cuando el buki se presentÓ en el nokia> sabemos que cantaste con tu papÁ, cÓmo fue eso? >> fue muy divertido, estoy muy feliz que pude hacer eso, un sueÑo hecho realidad. >> y con tus otras hermanas. >> sÍ, tambiÉn, me sentÍ muy cÓmoda con ellas, cuando estoy sola me siento medio nerviosa, esta fue la primera vez cantando en un escenario grande como nokia, me sentÍ muy cÓmoda, pero despuÉs me...
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the bulk of the market that was once dominated by nokia in places like india, you are trying to sellphone to them. you will have to bring down the cost of the handset. otherwise you will not find your audience and that's why you find cheaper android devices or you will see microsoft trying to come up with a lower end phone for these markets. >> when you say we should focus on the middle class, the percentage of the middle class that is connected, are you saying we should not expect the lower class to come online anytime soon? >> they can easily come online assuming you can have them be connected with a mobile device that is extremely cheap in price. the rest of the population that i mentioned, they actually have normal feature phones right now. they are the ones where the opportunity is for these handset providers to connect them with lower-cost devices. with that, you would see more services being offered including cloud services. >> thanks so much for joining us. we will continue to follow the indian market. let's check in with mark crumpton in new york. what else is going on in th
the bulk of the market that was once dominated by nokia in places like india, you are trying to sellphone to them. you will have to bring down the cost of the handset. otherwise you will not find your audience and that's why you find cheaper android devices or you will see microsoft trying to come up with a lower end phone for these markets. >> when you say we should focus on the middle class, the percentage of the middle class that is connected, are you saying we should not expect the...
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nokia. >> i got a nokia phone. i had problems with the others. >> what i don't understand is the company gets a new ceo and the stock goes on a tear. but has the business gone on a tear or has -- >> you're seeing the benefit of a lot of years of planning. i'm not going to say steve ballmer deserves the credit. but the company deserves the credit for sowing the seeds for success. but this whole idea of making the transition from being a product to a production services related company took a lot of planning. they caught a lot of flack over the years for running, booel being at a loss and now what we're seeing is that customers are adopting office 365 and azure dynamics, some of their other cloud services and you can see it in the numbers. >> the multiple, 30 or 25 and what is the multiple now? >> has the multiple expanded? >> sure. the results have gone up, but not as much as the multiple. >> the results have gone up -- >> they haven't gone up at all? >> no, they have gone up. >> it didn't go from 10 to 20 times ear
nokia. >> i got a nokia phone. i had problems with the others. >> what i don't understand is the company gets a new ceo and the stock goes on a tear. but has the business gone on a tear or has -- >> you're seeing the benefit of a lot of years of planning. i'm not going to say steve ballmer deserves the credit. but the company deserves the credit for sowing the seeds for success. but this whole idea of making the transition from being a product to a production services related...
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sales boost comes after the largest round of layoffs in the company's history and the acquisition of nokia's mobile phone operations. what do the results reveal about their strategy? i want to bring in matt mcill way who sold a company to microsoft. so matt what do you think this report reveals about him and the work he's done so far? >> i think that he's off to a good start. a big part of it is that he is having the company think more outside in and listening to what customers want and also being much more open to the ecosystem. that's showing up more in cloud than in p.c. sales. i think they're fortunate in the secular trend on p.c. sales. i would note actually that on the application side, the office 365 numbers are very impressive. >> would you agree, corey? >> a lot of the numbers look good. including some things that were troubled, gross numbers in the phone margins were better when you didn't think they could get better. but he's got a lot to deal with, wrestling with the acquisition of know key qua maybe chief among them but also chaining the culture of microsoft to be more collabora
sales boost comes after the largest round of layoffs in the company's history and the acquisition of nokia's mobile phone operations. what do the results reveal about their strategy? i want to bring in matt mcill way who sold a company to microsoft. so matt what do you think this report reveals about him and the work he's done so far? >> i think that he's off to a good start. a big part of it is that he is having the company think more outside in and listening to what customers want and...
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who would have thought nokia would have produced good up side for them in the quarter?ld about a million units a surface which is not great, but for them it's pretty good. they started selling xbox in china. there was a bit of a sell-in for the quarter for china. there was good news on the cloud side. it didn't show up on the up side you would see on the hardware side. >> does this mark a turn in the overall narrative for this company? >> i think the company's weathered the worst of the transition from office. that revenue is growing on a net basis. the loss of and the gain in cloud is net positive for revenues. satya is about to launch the expansion into the cloud. microsoft will be the biggest cloud company in the world starting this quarter. it will be bigger than amazon. infrastructure platform as a service. >> i was going to ask you, everybody is talking about the cloud. you hear it from oracle, sales force, microsoft is winning the cloud right now? >> it would be nice if it were all organic growth. 128% growth. unfortunately, it's coming out of other parts of the
who would have thought nokia would have produced good up side for them in the quarter?ld about a million units a surface which is not great, but for them it's pretty good. they started selling xbox in china. there was a bit of a sell-in for the quarter for china. there was good news on the cloud side. it didn't show up on the up side you would see on the hardware side. >> does this mark a turn in the overall narrative for this company? >> i think the company's weathered the worst of...
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so, could samsung go the way of nokia?ld say first of all that samsung remains very, very profitable. in that third quarter of this year, july, august, and september, it made $4 billion. but that was still a big decline. a decline of 60%. so it's all in the wrong direction. two reasons really. it's getting picked on at the top end of the mark by apple. the iphone 6, the big iphone 6. samsung started with these bigger phones, and they took off. apple's now following, and more than following. and the other thing that's hitting samsung is at the bottom end of the market, cheap, high quality phones from chinese companies and indian companies are biting away at the bottom end. samsung's retaliated by saying that it's going to address that middle and bottom range of the market with new products competitively priced. that remains to be seen. one thing about this market, though, it's partly electronics and technology and big brains stuff. of course it is. but it's also fashion. and fashion can be awfully fickle. >> steve evans the
so, could samsung go the way of nokia?ld say first of all that samsung remains very, very profitable. in that third quarter of this year, july, august, and september, it made $4 billion. but that was still a big decline. a decline of 60%. so it's all in the wrong direction. two reasons really. it's getting picked on at the top end of the mark by apple. the iphone 6, the big iphone 6. samsung started with these bigger phones, and they took off. apple's now following, and more than following. and...
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. >>> luxury car maker bentley has teamed up with nokia to create one of the most expensive smart phones ever. this is new high end vertwo smart phone. it has a sapphire screen, ceramic ear pillow and cat skin leather exterior. it also includes the subscription to a concierge and security service with a chauffeur on call. sound nice, right? well, here's the price tag, $17,000. for a smart phone. we will be right back. have you seen tom corbett's ads attacking me... get real. it's tom corbett who's been sticking it to the middle class on taxes. corbett cut a billion dollars from education... ...now almost 80% of school districts plan to raise property taxes. meanwhile, we're the only state that doesn't charge oil and gas companies an extraction tax. but corbett raised your gas taxes through the roof. i'm tom wolf, i'll be a governor who stands up for the middle class for a change. >>> when large companies want to give workers a perk it is usually a holiday bonus or extra vacation time but there are two giants stepping it up. apple and facebook have announced that they will pay to freeze,
. >>> luxury car maker bentley has teamed up with nokia to create one of the most expensive smart phones ever. this is new high end vertwo smart phone. it has a sapphire screen, ceramic ear pillow and cat skin leather exterior. it also includes the subscription to a concierge and security service with a chauffeur on call. sound nice, right? well, here's the price tag, $17,000. for a smart phone. we will be right back. have you seen tom corbett's ads attacking me... get real. it's tom...
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this might you might recognize, classic old-school nokia ring tone. [ tone plays ] ♪ ♪ >> this is hardscatting ] ♪ >> jimmy: you got it you did it that's the one. [ cheers and applause ] if that was my ringtone, i would never pick up the phone, i just want to hear that and let it go to my voicemail. hey, speaking of voicemail, we are going to do one more fun thing, we are going to take a a random person out of the audience and you are going to personally record their outgoing voicemail message. [ cheers ] >> is that right? >> jimmy: okay. let's do this. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> jimmy: all right. now, earlier tonight, you were each given a ticket with a a number on it. if i pull your number, i want you to come down here and sting is going to sing your outgoing message onto your cell phone. this is very exciting. all right. here we go. drumroll, please. [ drumroll ] [ applause ] seat number 146! hey, come on down, buddy! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ come on, buddy. how you doing, man? this is sting. what is your name? >> sandor. >> jimmy: sa -- >> sandor. s-a-n-d-o-r. >> jimmy: sandor,
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how could they nokia the by the security in airports to get one on board? >> hard for us not privy to classified to say with any specialties at this. u.s. officials say this is specific plot, credible plot but not necessarily imminent, not necessarily about to happen despite initial reports say that was the case. we can say with confidence whatever security measures we put in place there are groups plotting to defeat the security measures. it is constant evolution on part of the terrorists. we need to be constantly evolve and vigilant. eric: the threat still continues and only seems to grow. michael, stay with us. we want your thoughts after update from turkish-syrian border and the effort to stop the isis terrorists to capture kobani. the city is under assault from isis. kurdish fighters desperately trying to defend it. this as the u.s. is picking up its pace on the air campaign. there were more airstrikes overnight but the big question this morning, are they working? greg palkot live on the ground just across the border from kobani in turkey. hello, greg.
how could they nokia the by the security in airports to get one on board? >> hard for us not privy to classified to say with any specialties at this. u.s. officials say this is specific plot, credible plot but not necessarily imminent, not necessarily about to happen despite initial reports say that was the case. we can say with confidence whatever security measures we put in place there are groups plotting to defeat the security measures. it is constant evolution on part of the...
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could samsung's mobile business got same way as former giants motorola and nokia?: twitter launching a major legal challenge to the u.s. government surveillance orders. this is free speech battle that could have huge implications for the whole tech industry. details straight ahead. $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? i don't think so. well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years, that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all. ♪ (receptionist) gunderman group is growing. getting in a groove. growth is gratifying. goal is to grow. gotta get greater growth. i just talked to ups. they got expert advise, special discounts, new technologies. like smart pick ups. they'll only show up when you print a label and it's automatic. we save time and money. time? money? time and money. awesome. awesome! awesome! awesome! awesome! (all) awesome! i love logistics. health can change in a minute. so cvs health is changing healthcare. making it more
could samsung's mobile business got same way as former giants motorola and nokia?: twitter launching a major legal challenge to the u.s. government surveillance orders. this is free speech battle that could have huge implications for the whole tech industry. details straight ahead. $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? i don't think so. well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to...
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if you take out trouble of having acquired nokia's mobile phone business, right, jay, you would haveery nice earnings report? >> even with the, hi, liz, by the way. they had a beat across the board. their total revenues at 23.2 billion, a billion seven above our expectations. earnings beat, doing quick calculations, looks like four of their business segments out of the six beat our expectations. the other two are in line or a little bit light but not materially some turns out the phone business was better than we thought. the surface revenues, the tablet, was more than double what we had thought. the cloud revenues were up almost 1%. versus our -- 130%. versus our 90%. liz: let me stop you on the cloud. cloud matters to microsoft. they just showed they're in this great many game. look at that revenue. see how well they have done with this what do you expect in future quarters from the cloud business? >> clearly we'll have to rethink those numbers because they did beat us by a good margin. liz: yeah. >> they're clearly well over $4 billion annual pace. some might argue that is still o
if you take out trouble of having acquired nokia's mobile phone business, right, jay, you would haveery nice earnings report? >> even with the, hi, liz, by the way. they had a beat across the board. their total revenues at 23.2 billion, a billion seven above our expectations. earnings beat, doing quick calculations, looks like four of their business segments out of the six beat our expectations. the other two are in line or a little bit light but not materially some turns out the phone...
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xbox, nokia acquisition s microsoft surface and tablet. they had good comps because that is why revenue numbers look good. mr. softy is back and playing hard ball. the stock is up a few% after hours. gerri: thanks, scott i appreciate that. >> thank you, gerri. gerri: i want to remind people we may get a press conference with mayor de blasio on potential case of ebola, i emphasize that, right here in new york city. you're seeing the room they're setting up. right there, the headlines again, in case you missed it, a young doctor who works with doctors without borders, 33 years old and apparently attending physician at columbia, is being tested right now. he displayed some evidence of having ebola, higher temperature, nausea. we're still waiting. he it could be hours before we have an answer to the question. we'll continue could cover it. your voice is important to us. during the show, facebook me, tweet me, @gerriwillisfbn and send me an email at gerriwillis.com. we'll reed the tweets and emails coming up. >>> next we're only a week away fro
xbox, nokia acquisition s microsoft surface and tablet. they had good comps because that is why revenue numbers look good. mr. softy is back and playing hard ball. the stock is up a few% after hours. gerri: thanks, scott i appreciate that. >> thank you, gerri. gerri: i want to remind people we may get a press conference with mayor de blasio on potential case of ebola, i emphasize that, right here in new york city. you're seeing the room they're setting up. right there, the headlines...
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xbox video games and everything there and the nokia telephone hand seth business will be a big deal.ck out sony, another target for possible spinoff. dan loeb and his hedge fund have been agitating for change and a possible spinoff of that company. sony has appeared reluctant to carve out the profitable and entertainment part of the business interest the consumer electronics. in the end for all of these companies it's about trying to maximize shareholder value the stock price and how compelling a case can be made for tearing down what took a lot of time and money to put together in the first place. carl back over to you. >> that's an interesting point and i'm drawn to it. pepsi or dupont as nelson tries to argue for the same thing in a bunch of industries. >> to a lesser degree of success, but quite a long gestation period. the idea of hp is not new. they tried to do it a couple years ago. wanted to build up the company. now seems like it's the right time. cramer has been talking about microsoft, the one he thinks is the next candidate. >> it's harder to do these splitoffs in technol
xbox video games and everything there and the nokia telephone hand seth business will be a big deal.ck out sony, another target for possible spinoff. dan loeb and his hedge fund have been agitating for change and a possible spinoff of that company. sony has appeared reluctant to carve out the profitable and entertainment part of the business interest the consumer electronics. in the end for all of these companies it's about trying to maximize shareholder value the stock price and how compelling...