we also provide them, as nolvia mentioned, a metrocard so that they can have access to the city. we cover all of the fees related to transfer. transfer is a very expensive process. you think of an application fee being $60, $70. by the way, we do ask for waivers for those. but we also provide transportation to go and see these schools. >> mm-hmm. >> and i'm proud to say that we >> okay. you ultimately got your four-year degree from where? >> smith college. >> smith college. >> yeah, that's not local. >> no, all-women's college up in massachusetts. >> okay, and you graduated with a degree in...? >> government and third-world development. >> and now you are...? >> now i am director of partnerships for cypress hills local development corporation. i work for their community schools initiative. >> congratulations. and do you think that would have been possible without a four-year degree? >> no, definitely not. >> no. so your education at smith certainly helped you, for sure. >> yes, it definitely helped me. >> i want to quickly have you mention -- there's an application process, corre