of the personal attacks of people for the american way and the hard left that is supporting this nom thags. ... nomination. these were 18 firefighters who filed this lawsuit. not just frank richy. his name was the first one on the case but 18 of them. when you show empathy for one party, bob, you necessarily show a bias against another group. i just want to say i think pat and i would agree on this. we need to think through how we handle these cases today. and do it in a way that is effective legally and her opinion was rejected by the supreme court. it was a very important opinion. >> schieffer: will you try to stop this nomination or will you just use this as what some have said will be an educational moment? >> i hope it is is an educational moment because i think we are moving at a cross roads in american jurisprudence. are we going to adhere to the classical view of the role of a judge as a neutral arbitrator not out to promote an agenda on ideology or are we going to have a restrained judge who follows the law in case after case? >> schieffer: i'm sorry. we're going to have to end it