. >> up next next on book tv after words with guest host author nomi prins. this week nomi prins -- jake halpern and his book "bad paper: chasing debt from wall street to the underworld." .. often have prison records and have been drug dealers and so forth. there's a fellow named jimmy that seems to be one of the main characters of this nonfiction story. can you talk to me about how you connect it with him. >> guest: the way this got started was i talked to my mom a few years back and she told me she was being hounded by a debt collector. she said i don't owe the money he is saying that i owe but i think i'm going to pay him just so he will stop harassing me. my mom was worried so i thought this is bizarre and i started googling it and i saw there was a lot of this going on and actually the epicenter of that collection in the united states was buffalo. i had in my head that i was going to do a story actually from the collector's perspective on what it's like to collect debt and what the challenges you face in what is your life like. i pitch a story from "the