charles: joining me now, nomi prins.ea when you are campaigning, everyone says billionaires. no one likes billionaires. then you start to say millionaires. when you get into the position of implementing policy the price tag on bernie sanders's wish-list will be in the trillions of dollars. it will trickle down ultimately it will be a lot of people who think that going to be immune to his higher taxes would have to pay to fulfill his promise, wouldn't they? >> well, not necessarily. the idea is like to put caps and sort of progressive taxes whether it is on the people not paying for social security above a certain income level, versus the people that are, it is really incrementally adding to the social security pie. not saying everyone will pay more. if you're getting way more -- charles: that is for social security. a lot of people think it should be means-tested. that is an idea that has been around a long time. >> right. charles: now he is looking at corporate farms which is issue. a lot of small farmers are out of bus