most rewarding are with this new sort of category of americans who refer to themselves as the nonaffiliated. it's basically a way ofsaying i'm spiritual but not religious by the way, jesus had been pioneering that for years . >> interestingly, in the forum on religion and public life which is has been around spirituality for decades hasn't actually, with this new category. only about 10 years ago, because of the fact that a lot of people were turning in their questionnaires like faso simply refusing to choose eg which category they were going to. even though there was a category on that list that said atheist and another that said agnostic and they would turn it in and say none of this, that's not who i am so they had to come up with this new category and the category that they chose was titled as nonaffiliated. that has kind of become known as the non-. and in the 2016 pew study, 24 percent of americans chose non. it's the fastest growing label. and i think it tells you something about where we are as a nation and partly i believe it has to do with the marriage of religion and politics in