and when i have played before, the ball goes straighter on artificial turf than nonartificial. and on nonartificial the geoffer holes have to make you weave out so you don't go as fast for the ball. it's different on the artificial. so i agree, let's make artificial turf. [belinelli] commissioner fong: next speaker, please? hi, my name is john manning and i'm a richmond district native and avid soccer fan and coach and i'd just like to reiterate what a few others have said. too many families have moved out of san francisco and there's lots of reasons for that, schools and such, but lack of playing fields is part of that reason. when i grew up playing the beach chalet it was the a -- it was a dump back then and it's a dump today. you guys have the opportunity to change that and appreciate all the work that all of you have done in terms of getting crocker-am adon and sunset and the other fields renovated. there's hundreds of kids out there and out across the street at civic center playing soccer right now that support this. so thank you for your effort and please do this. >> than