there, and then the other aspect of it is when people first come in, they're often reliant on the nonelected staff members to do things. so this is kind of a continuing legislative bureaucracy. so could you address those points? >> yeah. first of all, i had 12 years in the house, 12 years senate which means some individuals might end up with 24, but that'd be a tiny minority of the time. in terms of staff, if you're lazy, you can be run by staff. i wasn't run by staff, but i had a mask louse staff. marvelous staff. i think i had the brightest staff on, in the senate at the time. but i came in as kind of a phenomenon. i was the conservative event of the year, so all kinds of people i gathered who have gone on and they've apparently done all kinds of things in the years since. if you know what you want to accomplish, seems to me you get your own staff. but it doesn't mean there aren't elements of truth in what you say, but that's going to be the truth no matter what you have. but i do feel the greatest burden is that you have people that can persuade themselves it's more important for the cons