nonproliferation region. and in the broader sort of the nuclear policy regime. >> and where is the u.s. nonproliferation leadership vis-a-vis israel and indian? >> well, i would argue that the u.s. view toward israel is a mistake and it is a -- >> and you have been critical on this point. >> yes, with israel and iran, yes, i agree, but in trying to set the stronger nonproliferation standards and guidelines, here the u.s. has played a much more critical role than the countries like russia and china and when we have superbed for not only the more important protocol, but pushed for the intrusive and state-level concept and looking beyond the nonproliferation, and looking at the nuclear safety, and we have in the are region, many civil and power programs, and iran, because of this, the situation around the deal is going to be looking to russia and china to expand its nuclear power reactors, and can do we trust russian and chinese leadership, and the nuclear safety and nuclear safety? i don't. and china has made s

nonproliferation vis-a-vis israel? kelsey: i would say that was a huge mistake and israel now at this point i think is an arms control and disarmament question. >> the point is we've always been hypocritical on this point. kelsey: i absolutely agree but when it comes to actually trying stronger nonproliferation standards and guidelines, here i think the u.s. has played a much more critical role than countries like russia and china when we a push for not only the additional article but the more intrusive than better-regulated concept.tate-level looking beyond the nonproliferation, will we look at nuclear security and safety we have a lot of countries in the region right now looking to expand their power programs. because of the situation, is going to be looking to russia and china to expand its nuclear power reactors. do we trust russian and chinese nuclear safety and security? i mean, china has taken some important steps but they lied far behind the united states and iner european countries terms of following the stand

every country in the world signed up to the nuclear nonproliferation treaty known as the n.p.t. with three exceptions india pakistan and israel we are willing for the banning of or the dummy guess if everybody else agrees to all three now have nuclear weapons and then there's north korea it walked away from the n.p.t. so what could exploited peaceful nuclear technology to make nuclear bombs itself something around end others are also accused of as it stands now there are nine nuclear nations and by that assessment the n.p.t. was a success dire forecasts of a global nuclear arms race never came to pass nuclear warheads once in the tens of thousands plummeted by around eighty the seemed but if judged by the pledge to reduce nuclear warheads to zero well it's fallen far short the stock i'm international peace research institute all sipri is to make zero most fifty thousand nuclear weapons worldwide all but around a thousand of them are in u.s. and russian hands signatories to the n.p.t. when required to abolish nuclear weapons completely they simply had to act in good faith to disa

treaty -- which is required by the nuclear nonproliferation treaty. i wonder if the statement was, perhaps, a reference to the continuing questions, i would say exacerbated by the material as part of the archives. >> i was struck, and andrew and i were speaking about this before coming on here, happily struck by the focus on syria, with regards to chemical weapons frustrating ton me, by the lack of continued, sustained emphasis and need to do something about that, both in the opcw and in the u.n., and outside of those organizations, that not enough can be done. and the shortcomings of the jcpoa and the path forward on how to look for improvements. >> thank you for having me here today and thank you for coming out. it is interesting, most of the time, when we look at this problem, they see it as paramount. starts in syria and goes to iran. it shows syria remains a major problem in this regard, the on the civil war, beyond the politics. syria, their chemical weapons stockpile, -- it was one of the largest stockpiles in tehe world. there were issues with

nonproliferation leadership in the region. in the broadsword of nuclear regime. >> during the bush administration, it was a huge mistake. and when now at this point israel is an arms control question -- >> we've always been hypocritical on this point. >> i would absolutely agree. but when it comes to setting up the standards and guidelines, here i think the u.s. has played a much more critical role than countries like china when we pushed for not only the additional protocol but the more intrusive and better regulated sort of state-level contest. and looking beyond for nonproliferation at the security and safety, we have a part of countries in the region that are looking to expand their civil power programs. iran because the situation around the deal is going to be looking to russia and china to expand its nuclear power reactors. we trust the nuclear security and nuclear safety? i certainly don't. china has taken some steps, but they are far behind the united states and other european countries in terms of studying the standar

he is a leading nonproliferation nonproliferation expert in the field. devonport --althy is kelsey devonport. steps onill talk about the denuclearization process. >> thank you for having me. i was afraid of the way the questions were going. with our pleased --fidence building measure when i was at the state department, it was 20 years ago. it was good to see the practice continuing. i was going to talk about what is needed, what is the steps for denuclearization. tonyrst point is one pricked. the first thing he to do is define what you mean by denuclearization. before north korea can begin to declare things, you have to agree on what is the problem set? what are they going to declare? realistically said are a long way from getting an agreement on its definition. it will not happen for some time. agree what north .orea will denuclearize in secretary pompeo's hearing on wednesday, he insisted north korea understands u.s. definition of denuclearization and agreed to denuclearize fully. it is not written down anywhere. everybody knows you have to write these

great experts on iran, syria, nonproliferation and compliance issues. i'd like your immediate reaction to it -- anything that struck you or stood out? importantht it was an reiteration of some of the key points we've seen coming out of the administration. one thing that struck me, particularly as an international lawyer, was the statement in which she said iran has not yet demonstrated that it has rectified its record of noncompliance with articles 2 and 3 of the npt. iranianiew is that the nuclear archive, which was taken out of iran by the israelis, is raising a lot of questions iseed about whether iran currently in noncompliance, in violation of the nuclear -- roliferation treaty which is required by the nuclear nonproliferation treaty. the statement was, perhaps, a reference to the continuing questions, i would say exacerbated by the material as part of the archives. and was struck, and andrew i were speaking about this before coming on here, happily ,truck by the focus on syria with regards to chemical weapons -- ofn frustrated by the lack continue

every country in the world signed up to the nuclear nonproliferation treaty known as the n.p.t.with three exceptions india pakistan and israel we are willing for the banning of or let me guess if everybody else agrees to all three now have nuclear weapons and then this north korea it walked away from the n.p.t. so what could exploited peaceful nuclear technology to make nuclear bombs itself something around end others are also accused of as it stands now there are nine nuclear nations and by that assessment the n.p.t. was a success dire forecasts of a global nuclear arms race never came to pass nuclear warheads once in the teens of thousands plummeted by around eighty the seemed but if judged by the pledge to reduce nuclear warheads to zero well it's fallen far short the stock i'm international peace research institute all separate is to make zero most fifty thousand nuclear weapons worldwide all but around a thousand of them are in u.s. and russian hands signatories to the n.p.t. when rick. wired to abolish nuclear weapons completely they simply had to act in good faith to disa

who is our lead on north korea and iran nuclear nonproliferation challenges. they will talk about the steps and pace and challenges on denuclearization process and we will take your questions for them. mark: thank you for having me. i was afraid the questions were going, the air would be sucked out of the room and i would have nothing to say. i am pleased with the confidence on the returnre of the remains. i was involved in the first return of remains when i was at the state department 28 years ago. it is good to see that process continuing. i was going to talk about what is needed, what are the steps for denuclearization. my first point is one that tony of, myok all the air out first point was, the first thing you need to do is define what you mean by denuclearization. before north korea can begin to declare a thing, you have to agree on what is the problem set? what will they declare? realistically said we are a long way from getting an agreement on what it means, and it is not going to happen for some time. you need to understand and agree what it is that n

kennedy, lbj's push for tighter gun regulations, vietnam war peace talks, work towards a nuclear nonproliferation treaty with the soviets, and earl warren's retirement announcement. this film from the lbj presidential library is a half-hour. ♪ ♪ headway on. >> we are making headway, particularly on the burden sharing. when i first joined this >> the evening of june 4 had been warm and clear in washington. the president retired just before midnight to the family living quarters of the white house after the state reception for visiting guests. his rest was cut short by a message. at 3:30 a.m., the president was awaken with the news that robert kennedy in the midst of victory in california, had been shot and critically wounded by an assassin. the president's reaction to the shocking event was immediate. he dispatched a plane with special medical assistance to los angeles and later in the day went on nationwide television to announce the appointment of a climateon to study the of violence and extremism in america. >> 200 million americans did not kennedy lastobert night any more than they struck down

nonproliferation treaty they have broken all the rules all international committee i don't understand if it's common sense as you say why is it that the head of israel's military the former head of shin bet the former head of mossad your spy agency the former head of israeli military intelligence the former head of israel's atomic energy commission the chair of israel space agency is your country's top military defense intelligence nuclear experts are saying the deal's a good deal it protects israel it protects the region protects the world well why should we dig in all of them and trust you benjamin netanyahu and donald trump they did not say it's a good deal he said it's the situation we bit better than before and i say it's not better than before it made to put iran on hold but we are not certain and yet the world's nonproliferation experts in open letters the top nuclear scientists in the world the e.u. the un the they all say it's working i know international diplomacy there's nothing which is more hypocritical than cynic there is some interest where in the in between i can tell

the general assembly overwhelmingly approved a nuclear nonproliferation treaty. united states and the soviet union had worked to secure its acceptance. johnson appeared before that body for the fourth time, held the passage of this measure as the most significant step toward peace in united nations history. >> it is the most important international agreement in the field of disarmament since the nuclear age began. prevent theto spread of nuclear weapons. it will ensure the equitable sharing of the peaceful uses of nuclear energy. all for the benefit of all nations. itself, nothe treaty time should be lost in bringing it into force. i pledge you this afternoon that we of the united states will move rapidly to open the treaty for signature. ♪ >> in recognition for his leadership and dedication in bringing about the loop your -- nuclear nonproliferation treaty, he was presented an award by new york industrialists. president kept his word to move speedily toward american approval of the treaty, which will be signed by the united andes and the soviet union 55 other na

-- co-hosting a regional nonproliferation workshop. we're also joining cyprus in providing more secure sources of domestic energy for cyprus and all of europe. american companies are playing a valuable role in energy exploration activities in cyprus' exclusive economic zone, in order to help provide europe with potential alternatives to russian gas and oil. yet despite this critical partnership between our two countries, the united states has had in place an arms embargo against the island of cyprus since 1987. this policy was initially intended to prevent an arms race on island with turkey, following turkey's 1974 invasion of cyprus and its subsequent occupation of the northern territory, in order to provide space for reunification talks. however, more than 30 years since the embargo was first implemented, turkey still has more than 30,000 troops occupying the northern territory of sigh pulse are. reunification talks have not produced intended results and the u.s. is unable to maintain a full security relationship with a key partner i

the extent to which we spend on the defense nuclear nonproliferation program, meant to safeguard the supplies of nuclear materials and keep them out of the hands on -- the hands of terrorists -- it has declined. , becauset an issue after his first few years, spending started declining. trump has continued it that way. ifthe last eight years, trump's budget is enacted, there 18% decline inan spending on these programs. and looking out over the next few years, trump wants to increase them at a 7.5% rate but there isn't enough to even keep pace with inflation. so there has been a real shrinking of it. and there is no indication that the threat has declined. host: in terms of numbers, what are we talking about? over $1 billion. is fiscal 2019 trump request 1.2 $5 billion for the program. the energy department request $11 billion for nuclear warheads associated infrastructure. and those two programs are in the same organization. and they compete for the same budget pie. and critics and arms-control advocates are concerned that as nuclear weapons spending has increased, and it has gone up

lead on north korea and iran nuclear nonproliferation challenges. will talk about the steps and challenges and pays of the nuclearization -- of >> denuclearization process i was afraid all there would be sucked out of the room and we wouldn't have anything more to say. i'm very pleased with their confidence building measure. i was involved in the first u.s. return remains so it's good see that process continuing. about what to talk was needed, what were the steps of denuclearization. my very first point is the one that tony took all the air out of. before north korea can declare have towe half that we figure out what they are going to declare. tony realistic we said we are a from getting an agreement on what it means to be a definition and that's not going to happen for a long time. you need to understand what it to-- understand the degree where north korea will denuclearize. he insisted that north korea understands u.s. definition of and the northon korea agreed to denuclearize fully. anywhere,ritten down and everybody who has negotiated with north

policy in iran with a focus on nonproliferation both take place. you can watch that at noon eastern on c-span. also available are c-span.org, or you can listen to with our free c-span radio app. of --in denuclearization and denuclearization of the korean peninsula posted by the arms control association at 2:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, also available on our website and with the free c-span radio app. >> while we wait for this conference on opioids to get baltimore, today on "washington journal" we took your phone calls to find out how opioids were affecting callers' lives. at papers thatok represent cities and states, opioids are a problem there too. this is the seattle times 8 people are dead in one county after the tightening of prescription rules. overdoses have doubled possibly because of stricter rules describing the drugs according to health officials. a week-long survey was conducted that showed 57 incidents in that district on wednesday, that is 8 per day, comparing with 37 total cases early last year. effort toa better understand the epidemi

is vital, mentioned this in the negotiations, crucial that we fine tune global stability and nonproliferation of weapons of mass destruction. we submitted our american colleagues a note with a number of specific suggestions. we believe it necessary to work together further, to interact on the disarmament agenda this includes the extension of strategic offensive arms limitation treaty, it is a dangerous situation with the global american anti-missile defense system, implementation issues with the imf treaty and nonproliferation of weapons in space we favor continued cooperation in counter terrorism and maintaining cyber security i would like to point out specifically that our special services are cooperating quite successfully the most recent example is their operational operation within recently concluded world football cup in general, the contacts among special services should be put to a system wide basis, should be brought to systemic framework. i recall, i reminded president trump about the suggestion to reestablish the working group on anti-terrorism we also mentioned a plethora of regio

eas control by the ia strengthens the nonproliferation regime. the syrian crisis, we discussed the implementation of the minsk agreement by kiev. morenited states could be decisive in nudging the ukrainian leadership and encourage it to work more actively. also pay more attention to the economic ties and cooperation taking a clear that both countries are interested in this. the american delegation was one of the largest delegations in the st. petersburg economic forum,. . it featured over 500 representatives of american businesses. to create a high-level working group to bring together -- russian and american this. entrepreneurs and business and know no better how to articulate this successful corroboration. we will let them make their proposals and suggestions in this regard. once again, president trump mentioned the issue of the so-called interference of russia in the american elections. and i had to reiterate things i said several times, including a personal conversation, that russia has never interfered and is never going to interfere in amer

basis of confidence and trust among nations we are committed to the promises we made in terms of nonproliferation and we will continue our cooperation with international organizations including the i.a.e.a. iran is looking to have just legal peaceful and stable relations with the world all right we're going to take a quick break here on al-jazeera but when we come back promises of help for a range of refugees in desperate need after high powered visitors. the treatment of migrant children in u.s. detention goes to court. hello there let's have a check on our storm prepress room it's gradually working its way northward and you can see the eye of the storm here as it makes its way very very close to key issue there so for both south korea and key issue we're seeing damaging winds very heavy downpours at the moment and that system will gradually navigate the korea strait and work its way across the sea of japan there as we head through the day on wednesday still bringing us to wrench really heavy downpours as it gradually pulls up towards the northern parts of japan as we head into thursday still dr

fifty and then a more that's a requirement also and in a firm of obligation on from the nuclear nonproliferation treaty on all nuclear powers they talked about that that was not covered as you're saying peter that's a big issue the danger of nuclear war even an accidental nuclear war the catastrophic consequences are so profound why don't we talk about that talk about meddling in the in the future of the world nuclear weapons are meddling in our future having control over those nuclear weapons getting rid of them that's critically important that seems to be off the agenda right now what i think is really really tragic in this environment that we're right now is that you know negotiations are equated with the this is the tragedy of the conversation right now ok and arms control is so very important but if you negotiate it means surrender summit go ahead irl. no i i think you're right it's that personally i've this meeting is something that should have taken place a while ago and i and i think the dialogue is is death absolutely necessary. or we're going to agree on things absolutely not but but i

>> well, as is typical, left has missed beg story here, on nonproliferation of nuclear weapon, in iran and north korea, russia can be helpful in bringing pressure to bear so we don't see widespread proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, and media does not top talk about, that they just want to criticize the president, instead of focusing on anti-terrorism and nonproliferation effort that i think were productive today. lou: i think this president is in charge of foreign policy, as no one has been for the last three presidents who preceded him. think about this, we're not at war anywhere. isis is all but exterminated. he is not at war with china. he is at same time holding them if you will, in position of whether south china sea or their economic expansionism before the world trade organization with a challenge against what they are doing, european union. i mean, these are fools who are prad eling off their -- prattling off their complains about how he conducted himself in a join press conference with the president of russia, it is ideaison the idea on thetic. >> i agree with that

negotiations, it's crucial that we fine-tune the strategic stability and global security and nonproliferation of weapons of mass destruction. we submitted our american colleagues a note with a number of specific suggestions. we believe it necessary to work together properly to interact on the disarmament agenda, military and technical cooperation. this includes the extension of the strategic arms limitation treaty, it's a dangerous situation with the global american anti-missile defense system. implementation issues with the i.m.f. treaty. and of course the agenda of nonplacement of weapons in space. we favor the continued cooperation in counterterrorism and maintaining cybersecurity. and i'd like to point out specifically that our special services are cooperating quite successfully. the most recent example is the operational cooperation with them, the recently concluded world football cup. in general, the context -- contacts among the special services should be put to a system-wide basis, should be brought to systemic framework. i recall i'm reminded -- i recall i reminded president trump ab

week after easter when the becon on the hill showed brightly in washington, you had a nuclear nonproliferation protestor, you had a scientist super star falling from grace on the roads of redemption. we do not serve brains, the main course is beef welling tennessee. it is my pleasure to welcome to the stage joseph esposito, author. [applause] >> thank you, thank you very much and thank you all for being here. it's a rather soggy day. first of all, i want to ask, how many people are aware of this dinner that took place in 1962, the nobel dinner, any familiarity with it? okay, well, i'm going to tell you a little more about it and hopefully you will find it as fascinating as i found it when i was doing the research and writing of the book. first of all, it took place on a a day, april 29th, it was allusion of easter egg heads, it was a week after easter, it was first day of daylight savings time and the midpoint of the kennedy administration and it was, i think, it was a highlight of the really highlight of camelot. people were seated in two large rooms in the white house, state dining room whic

discuss all union dues the war stricken weapon and that it has something to do also with the nonproliferation trainees. pretty regular member in. the united states and we have also. it was machine you talked. to give us a ploy mon of weapons in space shuttle genius of the region we would like to continue our ration guarding cyber security and combating international terrorism and let me also say that our intelligence services has special services work together quite successfully for instance they have worked together with international american experts. as you during the football world cup that has been finished yesterday and we would like to strengthen this cooperation and develop a system for such cooperation and first of all we'd like to set up a common work going group or regarding terrorism. and of course we have had negotiations that showed we do have different interests but we have also quite a few things we share and we need to find these points of common interests and work together literally and internationally and here i am also talking about recent crisis. for instance in syria. as

crucial that we maintain stability and nonproliferation of weapons of mass distraction. we submitted american colleagues with a note of specific suggestions. we believe it necessary to work thether to interact on disarmament agenda. this includes the extension of strategic arms limitation treaty. a dangerous situation with the global american self-defense system. implementation issues with the imf treaty. hey are agenda of weapons in space. continuedhe cooperation and counterterrorism in maintaining cyber security. i would like to point out that our special services are cooperating successfully together. the most recent example operation within the concluded world cup. contacts among special services should report to systemwide --is systemic framework suggestions to reestablish the working group on antiterrorism. we mention provisional crises not only that -- and yet mutual interests abound. we have to look for points of contact and interact closer in a forums.of international we mentioned the regional crisis, for instance, syria. as far syria is concerned, the task of e

since the, 50 years nuclear nonproliferation treaty. which was supposed to strike a deal. the nuclear powers, the u.s., russia, and the others, would agree that they would move toward elimination, good faith efforts at elimination of their nuclear weapons in return for the other countries not acquiring nuclear weapons. the u.s. has totally reneged on that. so after this has become evident, country's mood to this nuclear ban treaty, the group behind it won the nobel peace prize last year. this has gotten ridiculously little coverage and understanding in the u.s. and elsewhere. that is what i was highlighting, that these men w who would go on to talk about proliferation and how reresponsible they are -- liberation, nonproliferation is million -- orjust will he and his him. we maintain the violence of the world. we will threaten for our strategic instance. they can scream at each other. this establishment and russian establishment, just as the democratic establishment and republican establishment scream at each other. and meanwhile, the wars that they both want continue. the

iran has never attacked a neighbor he has repeatedly attacked its neighbors iran signed the nonproliferation treaty israel has refused to sign iran submits to inspection but they by the international nuclear energy agency israel refuses to suddenly iran has no nuclear weapons israel has between seventy five and four hundred nuclear weapons so israel poses an existential threat to iran now thanks for the. recently and i want to make for the last forty years israel has conducted a systematic campaign of this information about iran why the lies why the double standards why the poc recy professors like can you say this in a straight face i cannot believe it if you look in the details israel right has been in existential threat ever since ever since its reestablishment and it was reestablished in one thousand four hundred eighty as a historian. in. israel. only out of self defense is defending itself and israel has never ever threatened another country israel has attacked its neighbors not in self-defense one example the first one is the who is war one hundred fifty six it wasn't a war self-defen

could agree to start talking about extending a treaty on the nuclear nonproliferation, and that is one thing, and also possible according to a source that with election meddling putin might offer something like an agreement not to interfere, and likely to be on both sides. by because of the nature of that and the timing of that, it is unli unlikely that the u.s. would agree to it, wolf. >> michelle cosin ki in helsinki with us. michelle, thank you. we will get back to you, and right now sh, the former cia director and retired general of the cia michael hayden. >> thank you. >> and you know there are loud calls for the president to back out of the summit after the indictment of the 12 russian military intelligence officer, and so what does the president trump have to achieve to make this entire meeting worthwhile? >> well, he has to the act in a way that is inkon sconsistent w the report that michelle just gave us. the verb he is using with regard to the russian meddling is they'll ask. he can does not have to ask. he has an indictment. and i would, if i were still part of the white hou

the world pledged not to acquire them in every country in the world signed up to the nuclear nonproliferation treaty known as the n.p.t. with three exceptions india pakistan and israel we are willing for the banning of or let me guess it everybody else agrees to all three now have nuclear weapons and then there's north korea it walked away from the n.p.t. so what could exploit peaceful nuclear technology to make nuclear bombs itself something around end others are also accused of as it stands now there are nine nuclear nations and by that assessment the n.p.t. was a success dire forecasts of a global nuclear arms race never came to pass nuclear warheads once in the thousands of thousands plummeted by around eighty percent but if judged by the pledge to reduce nuclear warheads to zero well it's fallen far short the stock crime international peace research institute all sipri is to make zero most fifty thousand nuclear weapons worldwide all but around a thousand of them are and you. u.s. and russian hands signatories to the n.p.t. when required to abolish nuclear weapons completely they simply

every country in the world signed up to the nuclear nonproliferation treaty known as the n.p.t. with three exceptions india pakistan and israel we are willing for the banning of or that dummy yes everybody else agrees to all three now have nuclear weapons and then there's north korea it walked away from the n.p.t. so what could exploited peaceful nuclear technology to make nuclear bombs itself something around and others are also accused of as it stands now there are nine nuclear nations and by that assessment the n.p.t. was a success dire forecasts of a global nuclear arms race never came to pass nuclear warheads once in the teens of thousands plummeted by around eighty percent but if judged by the pledge to reduce nuclear warheads to zero well it's fallen far short the stock crime international peace research institute all sipri is to make zero most fifteen thousand nuclear weapons worldwide all but around a thousand of them are in u.s. and russian hands. signatories to the n.p.t. weren't required to abolish nuclear weapons completely they simply had to act in good faith to di

effectively ensures the peaceful nature of the iranian nuclear program, and strengthened the nonproliferation regime. while we discuss the internal ukrainian crisis, we paid special attention to the implementation of agreements. and the united states can be more decisive in nudging the ukrainian leadership and encouraging it to work actively on this and pay more attention to economic cooperation. it's clear that both countries, the businesses of both countries are interested in this. american delegation was one of the largest delegations in the st. petersburg economic forum. it featured over 500 representatives from american businesses. we agreed, me and president trump, we kreeed to create a high level working group that brings together captains of russian and american business. after all, entrepreneurs and businessmen no better how to articulate this successful business cooperation. we'll let them think and make their proposals and suggestions in this regard. once again, president trump mentioned the issue of the so-called interference of russia when the american elections, and i had to rei

look, chris, we've been involved in nonproliferation before. let's look at saddam hussein.resident gets off the plane after five hours of conversation with kim jong-un and what's left on the table? first, are you certain of intent? what is kim jong-un thinking? i'm not. second, the more complicated, intricate problem. i want a declaration of every facility where they've tested, developed, stored a nuclear weapon or nuclear material. >> right. >> i want to know every engineer, every scientist. i want to see every document. so the president gets off the plane. there's no way he can get off the plane having an indication that the north koreans are going to give us a signal within five hours of whether they're going to comply with the agreement. >> he said. he said the threat's over. >> well, he doesn't know what he's talking about. if you're going to do this kind of nonproliferation agreement, you've got to have the detail on all this stuff that's going to take years. >> nick, the other side of it is, look, this is what north korea is about. everybody knows this who knows anyt

nonproliferation treaty they have broken all the rules all international commitment i don't understand if it's common sense as you say why is it that the head of israel's military the former head of shin bet the former head of mossad your spy agency the former head of israeli military intelligence the former head of israel's atomic energy commission the chair of israel space agency is your country's top military defense intelligence nuclear experts saying the deal's a good deal it protects israel it protects the region protects the world well why should we dig in all of them and trust you benjamin netanyahu and donald trump they did not say it's a good deal he said it's the situation we bit better than before and i say it's not better than before it made to put iran on hold but we are not certain and yet the world's known. next but in open letters the top nuclear scientists in the world the e.u. the un the they all say it's working i know international diplomacy there's nothing which is more hypocritical than cynic there is some interest where in the in between i can tell you that unti

nonproliferation treaty language. that we're working toward that. and the way i interpret what they're saying is part of being a nuclear state is to make broad aspirational statements like that and that you've got to do the same thing and someday down the road we'll be there, but don't hold your breath. >> got it. then, ambassador, this goes to my question about the final outcome that you alluded to but i want to press you on it a little bit more. i think the best case scenario is that there is negotiations that's moving forward. we finally get a process. right now we don't have any negotiating teams or anything. all the things you're alluding to, i just think about how we did the new start treaty. you know, we named pompeo, was going to be the -- on our side. although the secretary of state has many things he has to do. besides negotiating a treaty. but we didn't name -- there was nobody named on the north korean side. but let's just say best case scenario, get it all set up, have a process, singapore becomes a place like geneva used to be for arms

biggest scrutiny of the i am that has helped protect the nonproliferation treaty we also discussed sleep training and. we looked at the. needs for a conscientious implementation could call the u.s. troops have been. more firm achieving that pushing the ukrainian authorities to comply with the means could call its we also focus strongly on me we'll do you have. been true i mean for carp ration on both sides of the atlantic the u.s. business delegation was one of the biggest one the st petersburg economic forum in may. feature more than five hundred senior executives from the u.s. we need to spur investment and trade alone to do this we need agree to set up. a level working group that would. combine captains of industry from both countries. business leaders know better how to establish a copper a trade in investments that then think hard about it and provide proposals on the way that squirrels president raise the issue of the so-called alleged russian meddling in the two thousand and sixteen election and i have to repeat what i said several times including my one on one meetings with him.

about the long list of issues that the leaders may or may not talk about one of them nuclear nonproliferation how did those of these two leaders stand on this and will this be brought up but i'm let's start with you. well i think that both leaders will be looking for a common ground this is obviously just a first meeting. in perhaps what the russian side is hoping will be a string of meetings so i think they're both they're both sides are kind of looking for concrete takeaways that they could come out of the meeting with and i think that. certainly for the russian side nuclear non political prisoner for ration excuse me would be one concrete takeaway that certainly seems likely there's this new start treaty which at the moment runs until twenty twenty one and they could agree for example on extending that there is the possibility of extending that for five years and that would certainly be in russia's interest we'll have to wait and see whether it's in in the u.s. interest as well. as come to you know because we've again heard mixed messages from donald trump on where he stands on nuclear arm

fifty and then more that's a requirement also and in a firm that obligation on from the nuclear nonproliferation treaty on all nuclear powers they talked about that that was not covered as you're saying peter that's a big issue the danger of nuclear war even an accidental nuclear war the catastrophic consequences are so profound why don't we talk about that talk about meddling in the in the future of the world nuclear weapons are meddling in our future having control over those nuclear weapons getting rid of them that's critically important that seems to be off the agenda right now what i think is really really tragic in this environment that we're right now is that you know negotiations are equated with the this is the tragedy of the conversation right now ok and arms control is so very important but if you negotiate it means surrender summit go ahead irl. you know i i think you're right it's that personally i've this meeting is something that should have taken place a while ago and i and i think a dialogue is is death absolutely necessary. or we're going to agree on things absolutely not but b

and then a more that's a requirement also and in affirmative obligation on from the nuclear nonproliferation treaty and all nuclear powers they talked about that that was not covered as you're saying peter that's a big issue the danger of nuclear war even an accidental nuclear war the catastrophic consequences are so profound why don't we talk about that talk about meddling in the in the future of the world nuclear weapons are meddling in our future having control over those nuclear weapons getting rid of them that's critically important that seems to be off the agenda right now what i think is really really tragic in this environment that we're right now is that you know negotiations are equated with the this is the tragedy of the conversation right now ok and arms control is so very important but if you negotiate it means surrender summit go ahead irl. no i i think you're right it's that personally i've this meeting is something i should have taken place a while ago and i and i think the dialogue is is death absolutely necessary. or we're going to agree on things absolutely not but but it'

implementation of the nuclear deal they recalled that the disappear way is a key element of the global nonproliferation architecture and a significant achievement of multilateral diplomacy endorsed unanimously by the un security council through twenty two thirty one the participants welcomed the eleventh report by the international atomic energy agency on the twenty fourth of may confirming that iran is abiding by its nuclear related commitments john hall has more from the. you may recall shortly after the u.s. withdrew from the nuclear deal in may the remaining five powers signatory to it said that they would uphold the deal if iran agreed to honor it and iran said it would as long as they would protect and guarantee its interests essentially compensating it for lost revenue as a result of the reimposing of u.s. nuclear sanctions that begins now with and secondly u.s. sanctions threatened against any company or entity continuing to do business with iran well i don't think as a result of this first meeting there's been much of a breakthrough either in convincing iran of the benefits of staying in the d

discuss but they don't want to compromise instead they want to see clear signals when it comes to nonproliferation often ok and what that weapons fact would be and i outcome the europeans which you know appreciate and of course to find a solution or two to somehow get russia to to be more constructive with respect to conflicts like the conflict in syria where russia placed an important role well the nato summit certainly made clear that what we have seen from the trumpet ministration is a lot of mixed messages how. more e.u. leaders really dealing with that this is an important alliance for the keep a straight face and they tried to first of all support the transfer of integration but they they have have also been some critical voices and what is a good outcome basically is that the europeans are reminded that they have to look after their security as well and if that means stay they will invest more in defense that's a positive signal but what has changed very much is the tone in which europe and the united states and dealing with each other and this is something you need in diplomacy you need a