or that level of nontreatment, as it were. but it's no longer right now as acceptable to be such a loud ignoring, a loud silence as it was then. that's progressed too far. there is too much attention. there is enough power in the hands of this minority group that you're not allowed to ignore it to that level anymore. but you're right. i didn't see the sterling interview with anderson cooper. >> you didn't miss much. >> that's why i didn't choose to watch it. >> i didn't see it either. i couldn't take it. >> somebody told me he brought up the fact that he didn't say magic has hiv. he said he has aids. if i understand he said "the aids" which is all the more odd. but it showed so many levels of ignorance. first off, unless there is something we don't know, magic johnson doesn't have aids. he has hiv. even that, with medication the way it is, i'm not sure what you call anything anymore. the different levels of having diseases and not. the biggest point is what does that have to do with anything we are talking about but that it wa