norcross. david is the quintessential guy that puts together all of the fashions of the conservative movement but also studies for a long time what is the conservative movement and your lecture has been outstanding. we can't thank you enough for the insights. >> thank you for the opportunity. >> let's have a discussion now. as we left i was saying when we came back we were going to talk briefly about thomas payne and edmund burke. what's the difference? are they the same, are they different? is it the same philosophy? please. >> i think one of the fundamental differences between payne and burke is if you get back to like the aristotle position that men are political animals they would differ on that, that's why payne believes that if governments have to have the you know, reaffirmed consent of each citizen. because that government is not natural where burke is more okay with a monarchy because he believes that you have to have a government for the citizens. >> you want to comment on that? >> no

norcross went on to say about throwing out payne wants to throw the baby without the bath water. he does that but he does that because he believes in trying to establish a utopian society. >> i meant to do that, excuse me, i meant to answer payne. payne might love the arab spring. >> but burke goes on to say when you do throw out tradition, tyranny comes. >> and payne would say, didn't come to us. >> that's exactly right. >> and if you -- but payne would go a step further. if you do believe on the inherent rights granted by god to man, and discoverable through nature, that that won't happen. but that's the issue. >> it's a leap. >> you had a question. >> i found it interesting that when you mentioned that burke advocated progress because today, when we hear the term progress, progressives in politics, we don't think of people like edmund burke. >> you may have noticed that i slipped and said progressives once when i said progress. >> maybe i'm just throwing that out there. but would you say that you know, progressives today who advocate the course of action that they do, do you t

norcross guest lectured in south carolina in a corps called the or engines of modern conservatism. this is an hour and a half. >> he is indeed a great friend, which i suppose explains the generosity of that introduction. i thank you. this topic is particularly apt today. you hear a lot, particularly in the republican primary, about who is a conservative, who is not, what is a conservative? and you could do no better than edmond b ururke as a template f what conservatism really is. so you might ask somebody whom you wonder whether they are conservative or not, what do you know about edmund burke? clearly not every conservative knows a whole lot about edmund burke. many have probably not read edmund burke. we can move to some things you're going to hear about today and talk to them about what they think about these various principles. i think edmund burke and his principles describe the classic conservative. now, somebody's political philosophy, right, left, center, how far right, how far left, is a pretty personal thing and it's pretty complex. and the use of labels is probably not

this week former general counsel to the republican national committee david norcross looks at edmund burke and the origins of modern conservatism. mr. norcross is a guest lecturer at the citadel military college in charleston, south carolina n a course called the conservative intellectual tradition in america taught by mallory factor. this is an hour and a half. >> he is indeed a great friend which i suppose explains the generosity of that introduction. i thank you. this topic is particularly apt today. you hear a lot, particularly in the republican primary about who eye is a conservative, who is not, o what is a conservative, and you can do no better than edmund burke as a template for what conservatism really is. so you might ask somebody whom you wonder whether they are a conservative or not, what do you know about edmund burke? well, clearly not every conservative knows a whole lot about edmund burke. many have probably not read edmund burke. at that point you can move to some things we're going to talk about today, some things you will hear about today, and talk to them about wh

brian norcross, he was going to join us there from the weather channel.ou're looking there at the wreckage. some of the aftermath. the storm has apparently dissipated. looks like people in that county were given a heads up before it struck. hasn't been an f-5 tornado in texas in a couple of tech kads. brian i believe is with us now from the weather channel. brian? >> i'm here. >> what can you tell us? >> well, we know that we've had two tornadoes under way. possibly a third in the metroplex there. one southeast of dallas. the pictures we've been seeing out of kxas are that tornado that's moved near the lancaster area which is in the southeast part of the city of dallas. which is the east side of the metroplex. another tornado which we believe from radar is still under way moving toward the arlington area to the west of dallas, to the east of ft. worth. there's still a tornado warning in effect in the area of the ballpark there in arlington and throughout that central part of the metroplex. everybody should take cover there. as far as we know, that storm i

bryan norcross from the weather channel is joining us right now. what can you tell us? >> maria, we have every expectation the damage across the dallas-ft. worth metroplex is going to be widespread. we do not have any injuries or fatalities reported yet confirmed but the -- based on what we see in the pictures, it would be very surprising if this has not just been a tragic day there. widespread damage from southeast of dallas where another cell is moving over hutchins and the lancaster area where they had tremendous damage this afternoon and another cell as well moving towards dfw and the arlington area where a tornado was confirmed earlier on and we know there was damage there. from help kol ter pictures we're seeing from every corner of the middle part of the metroplex, up towards plano and extending up towards dallas as well, we expect more to come in. >> and in terms of the damage, i want to reiterate, there have been no fatalities. is there correct? >> that's the information that we have at this point. again, though, i would just -- it would be very surprising give

skied him what his dad would have done with the norcross pledge.grover norton. who are you? why are you in my office and get out. oh, the president has a new -- we have a new campaign slogan. >> okay. >> stephanie: video. forward. republicans, regressive. put it in reverse. put it in r. back to the '50s or whatever. the president who is handsome and romantic and a good singer said the choice between going backward and moving forward has never been so clear. he told several hundred women. >> i've heard. >> stephanie: as long as i'm president, we're going to keep moving forward. you don't have to take my word for it. you have my signature for it referring to the lilly ledbetter act. he said because something like standing up for the principle of equal pay for equal work is not something i have to get back to you on which is what romney said. it is first law i signed. we have governors in legislatures across the river and virginia and up the road in pennsylvania saying women can't be trusted to make your own decision. they're pushing and passing bills