norcross and her family deserve to live in these conditions if they're moore? >> if you listened? >> yes or no, do they deserve to live in these conditions if they're poor. would you let your grandmother live in public housing. >> you know very well. >> you would let your grandmother live in public housing. >> you know -- >> would you let your grandmother live in public housing under these conditions. >> it would be very nice if you would stop -- >> you stated that -- >> the gentleman from florida, ms. larson, is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, madam chair, it is a great day in america. doctor, welcome to the committee. when i was five years old, we lost everything. house, everything. and moved a number of times. and six in the family. and my father got to recover, and eventually, we built a house. and i still own that house today, after they are gone. so i do believe, that if people work hard enough, you know, and they want to survive, they can survive, sometime without the government help because there was no government help them. but one of the things that i would li