nordstrom shopper, no. kohl's a different matter, and macy's somewhere in the middle. >> of course we're talking about stocks and record high. we have the s and dow at record highs. >> the rth has exploded, xrt is very steep. this particular subset, there are only three stocks in the s&p 500 so-called department store index, this has been a laggard, macy's down 10% from january. it's a great bet it catches up, does what kohl's did and catches up. >> i would add one more point. they had a lot of news in the last couple of months. they made an acquisition, reiterated 2014 guidance, said comps were good. it really comes down to guidance. what nordstrom is telling you today is the stock could still advance with the downgrade in the guidance. nordstrom trades about 20 times less expected gross. to me, this one sets up as a good trade next week. >> today when the stock was 63.25, i actually bought, i looked to march and bought the 65, 67.5 call spread. i bought a march calls against it. when you really think about the trade, i have a break-even up at 65.60, a few percent away. i'm selling that call, the previous high that carter talked about. i