isn't. >> norio: we're taking you to a place, an undisclosed location -- >> anthony: right. >> norioing involved. uh, you know, 'cause every time there's, like, alien stuff, there's always probing, always with the probing. >> norio: yeah. >> anthony: i don't understand. it's like, if they've been coming here for years, haven't they done enough probing? well, if you were those -- from like, uh, "ghost adventures," you'd be really playing this up. some say that this area was used for sinister experiments, german-speaking cyborgs. you'd need to find some crackpot scientician. this is even better than area 51. this is like, area 61. area 61 turns out to be a fenced-off view of essentially kirkland air force base. >> norio: the leading edge of military research developing and testing. at night, there's a lot of lights. uh, it's a huge complex. >> anthony: the fact is, there was and still is some pretty cool stuff being tested out there in the desert. maybe for darpa, or nsa, or the air force. who know? do you think there are ali -- do you think there are other life forms, uh, among us or