at brigham and women's hospital and professor at harvard medical skoof and a staffer with "the ne nork ehe n" great to have you, doctor. i want to start with the vaccine. they have been very clear they want to rush it out. they want some big announcement before election day. the president said it might come out before a special day. you had a bunch of drugmakers on friday say we're going to come together and basically object to the fda ahead of the clinical trials. how important was that step we got from the drugmakers? where does it stand? >> i think it's huge. you know, the reality is you have a drug industry saying we will not produce tests -- produce vaccines if they're not tested and deploy them to the population. they don't want the risk, and they don't want the potential of harming people instead of actually helping. i think it's an important thing. it's easy to come to that place when it's been the practice we've had for a long time. they're backing the fda, and they're sayi ining it's to the people. >> i'm conflicted. we live in a world where there's a contingent of anti-vax f