to refer to some of this as norms, and as to certain aspects of it, i agree it is a norm, but i think the fundamental concept is more than a norm. i think it is enshrined in the actual language of the constitution, and although this president ignored it, it should not be ignored. that is the embodiment of the take care clause in the constitution too, saying the president shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed. that is one of his duties in article two of the constitution, and i believe the faithful execution of a lot requires him to make decisions and execute those laws and make decisions and manner of benefit to the country and not of benefit to himself personally. in addition, i want to remind people that the oath of office is actually set for a specifically -- forward specifically in the constitution. the framers and those of you who have read the constitution had the same reaction i do, when you go back to the amendments and the original constitution, there is not much language in there, but the framers decided to put the language of the oath of office specifically in

hat role do these norms play have norms eroded? if so, why? what role has congress, the media, social media, and other factors played in the exercise of presidential power? our distinguished panel of speakers begins with a professor from harvard law. you see in your virtual programs, the bios for each of our speakers are very long. i will cut to the chase. he is a senior fellow at the hoover institution. of his most recent well-known books include after trump and in hoffa's shadow. our next speaker will be a partner at a washington dc law firm. firm'she founder of the crisis management and constitutional law practices. he was solicitor general of the u.s. from 2001-2004. 1980-1984, he was an assistant attorney general. times, he hasse been practicing independently. our next speaker beyond that a litigation partner with a distinguished record of public service, including a number of senior government roles. he was white house counsel to president obama. career, he served as associate general counsel to president clinton. he has broad experience

norm: i will jump in and start on that one. as was in the news today, it was reported that elon took several covid tests, and that stirred up a bunch of questions relative to health and potential contamination. what i can tell you is nasa and our commercial partners have a health stabilization plan in place. it is a protocol that protects the flight crew from any disease or illness, because if they are compromised, that can affect and jeopardize the mission. we pay a lot of attention to that and have done that over many years. this is something that has been in place back in the apollo time frame and the shuttle and station missions as well. how we do this is obviously the crew is, when they come close to launch, are put in quarantine. the self-quarantine is around 21 days, where they are really starting to isolate, reduce their movement, their exposure to other folks. then, at 14 days to launch, we call it a hard quarantine, where they are totally isolated and really watched closely by the docs. so that is the protocol in plac

roosevelt challenge the norms of the separation of powers. forid not have a lot of use checks and balances. ordinary americans understood these conflict were occurring, too. a lot of people were in favor of the federal government regulating the economy providing for social security. they were opposed to roosevelt taking more power against the presidency. they want to preserve that traditional set of checks and balances. finally, most political scientists don't think public opinion could control what the government does. i think i found evidence of the public not only following these debates passively but they were actively helping decide what kinds of things roosevelt could do and what kinds of things he couldn't do. by the new deal representing a change to the constitutional status quo? one of the famous images roosevelt made in some of his early speeches was the federal government had a responsibility to the forgotten man. there is the cartoon with the forgotten man. shaking roosevelt hand saying you remembered me. to understandngs economic

i don't think —— democratic norms. pleased, they don't have the same regard for lots of the norms of office and they wanted to send a vote for someone they wanted to send a vote for someone different to shake things up and act differently. a lot of them are in favour of the way he behaved and other people are obviously appalled by his breaking of those democratic norms. they rely on traditions and customs. do you think people going in now like joe biden would change and have to make legal changes to try and and prevent some of those norms been changed in their eyes? what is helpful is try to specify what the norms are and when we do, we can't be neutral about them because they are the foundation of what it means to have a democracy. you can't have a democracy. you can't have a democracy without a rule of law and that means not using the office for personal profit for instance. that means not trying to subvert, as this president did, an investigation into your criminal wrongdoing with criminal actions itself as this pre

broken.s norm was to was shatter fineprecedents and make it . is where we get the only new deal era constitutional amendment. it was proposed during truman's running for president. we don't we don't get a constitutional amendment sanctioning the growth in federal power that occurred during the new deal. we do get a constitutional amendment trying to reaffirm a commitment to the way things have always been done in terms of balancing presidential power against congressional power against judicial power. let's think a little bit about why this matters beyond having a better understanding of an important and interesting time in our past. i think there are three main takeaways that are relevant for today. one is i think the fact that there weren't that many new deal constitutional amendments. the only one is the term limit. it is a problem. we have an ongoing ambivalence over how much power the federal government legitimately has or should have. i think the lack of a new deal concert party is a -- constitutional amendment is one of the reasons why th

once this norm was broken. once roosevelt was successfully elected, a third and fourth time -- what he did not do was shatter that precedent by george washington. he didn't make it fine for future presidents to break this norm, too. here's were i would argue that the only new deal constitutional amendment. it was proposed during truman's presidency and ratified shortly after the 22nd amendment and imposed a two-term limit on running for president. we don't get a constitutional amendment sanctioning the growth in federal power that occurred during the new deal. we do get a constitutional amendment trying to reaffirm a commitment to the way things have always been done in terms of balancing presidential power against judicial power. let's think a little bit about why this matters beyond having a better understanding of an important and interesting time in our past. i think there are three main takeaways that are relevant for today. one is i think the fact that there weren't that many new deal constitutional amend

military tribunal in norm back. of the $185.00 additional defendants $24.00 were initially sentenced to death. we need to i don't think that we germans back then or even later on condemned those criminals. the allies did it for us. nish v d she applies i don't know how those trials would have gone in a german court. after the last of the american led trials few attempts were made to capture and prosecute other nazi war criminals the world was preoccupied by the cold war and germans once again had the say in their own courtrooms so many former nazis remained in positions of authority in the young federal republic of germany. many of the others who had blood on their hands were never caught. after being led in the direction of democracy by the allies the victors who freed us it would really have been good to clean house and charge everyone. but naturally people didn't want that especially those guilty of crimes. when. they used their connections to prevent that and then the supreme court exonerated all of the judges.

and 75 years ago, the norm back trials began. they sent a legal precedent on holding international leaders to account for their crimes and laid the foundation for today's criminal court in the case below. i'm terry martin. good to have you with us. army says it has entered the 1st of 3 districts to be handed back by armenia. as part of the contentious peace accord. the russian brokered agreement ended weeks of fighting over the disputed region in and around nagorno-karabakh. got some maps for here, the 6 week war killed thousands of people in the go in a car that's an armenian populated region inside. the armenian forces later expanded their control over surrounding regions. but under the recent peace deal, john has recaptured its last territory and gained control of new regions shrinking the borders of nagorno. well armenian troops must leave the regions under the peace deal that they've lost. control of by december 1st, russian peacekeepers are being deployed to oversee that peace deal. earlier i spoke to d.w. correspondent, em

donald trump reminds us that all of these things are norms. you know, he's doing everything to shred every one of these norms. this is, you know, the fear i have, to take off of a george orwell line, if you want a picture of the future of american democracy, donald trump stomping on the face of american democracy forever. because people have seen that this can be done. now what happens when the next president, we're going to have to come up with an anti-trump rescue democracy legislative package, and make all those norms, make them laws. you have to release your tax returns, put your business in a blind trust. when you lose an election, there are certain things you can't do as president. we're going to have to institutionalize what has been norms, good behavior, you know, matters of good judgment and good manners. because donald trump reminds us, he's spotlighted one of the great weaknesses of american democracy. we expect people to be of goodwill in high offices, and he is not one. >> thank you, fareed. we need a zoom call with a fire and a g

norms are as important as a nyways well. norms are as important as anyways in—laws as her system. the rules not just wait for the law to tell them to do so. that was very troubling about his reaction last night. thank you very much indeed, we appreciate you joining us here on outside source. the truck campaign has again indicated that it will contest of these result projections in these crucial states just a reminder both candidates or try to reach 270 electoral college votes come the way this works as each state brings with it a chunk of electoral college votes dipping on the population of the state. because of the system image they're focused ona of the system image they're focused on a small number of states. florida has been projected for trump, 0hio with a particular tribe but now we are down really to a handful. georgia in the southeast, and in the three midwest states of pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan. the truck campaign is indicating it's going to getjustice ina race indicating it's going to getjustice in a race of ways. and, what are the practicalities of contesting

, normal democratic norms. reasons he's there and got voted in. but the flip side to that is that so much of the constitution and the ethics and norms aren't written down, aren't codified, depend on people's sense of, whatever it is, decency or shame or whatever. do you think in the light of everything that's happened that we will need to see more ratification? that we will need to see more codification? well, there are a couple of things that, one is that actually a number of the things that donald trump has ignored are actually codified. for example, in this moment, the head of the general services administration should have authorised the transition. she's refusing to do that, presumably under his direction. but i do agree, sort of, like happened post—watergate, if we had a bipartisan congress that was functioning, which would really require a republican senate, that we should see legislation to kind of plug some of these holes, these holes as you indicate that are really about decency, norms, protecting the

it a word that create -- world that creates the norms norms and forces norms on people that's homophobia and transphobia is. we talk about identity in the queer community and policing bubbling up pause we're trial to disrupt the institution of policing and the logic of policing and i wanted the back to be a space where were wrestled with those ideas. >> you've write about police and the amount of police killings in the country and call it an american problem. there's also a double standard about who can protest and what we call that. we certainly have seen this. to your point about drawing the lines between identity and police. it's power. i've been thinking about why we take the word of, say, an officer versus a citizen and how the assumption that an officer is telling the truth, keep us from really getting closer to the truth as possible. too you feel this way? >> you have seen it recently. when i wrote the book we didn't have constituent. -- kenosha and kyle rittenhouse. if he was black they would be making up crimes to charge this boy with. >> for those who don't know what you're tal

that has been a norm until recently. what that seems to do is set a mark for the rest of the administration to undertake transition in a relatively simple fashion area -- fashion. host: the transition effort is different than the inaugural effort? prof. hult: yes. the inauguration is held by a different part of gsa and they worked closely -- let's go to mary in orangeburg, south carolina. little my question is a confusing. on the transition -- if biden hasstand won so many states why it seems like donald trump trying to block his people getting in earlier to have access to the different apartments because it's not like bush and gore where it was only one state. you are talking about five states if not more. he's not worrying about the ones to be recounts, i don't see how it's possible that he shows that he can change that that amount ofh electoral votes in them. mary, thank you. i think that's a very good question and as you probably know as well many legal experts are making the argument that they are -- even if some vo

norm, i want to start with you. we are right now it seems that the president has tried to create every single lever to create doubt and sow doubt in the election system and try to call it fraudulent. but he seems to have been stumped by all legal angles. what do you make of this? what other avenues may he have? >> you know, he's now 1 for 20 or 1 for 21 on legal challenges. which really tells you something. and he's been forced to make rudy giuliani the voice of his administration and the legal process, which shows a sense of desperation right there. the thing about all of this that's heartened me a little bit, maria teresa, is that all the election officials, democrats and republicans, secretaries of state on down, made this a remarkably safe and secure election and they're all standing behind a reality that this was not a corrupted election and contradicting what the president is saying and doing. what i'm worried about now is not so much that we're going to have a coup attempt or a real catastrophe in terms of th

donald trump reminds us that all of these things are norms. you know, he is doing everything to shred every one of these norms. this is the, you know, the fear i have. this is, you know, take off of a george orwell line. but if you want a picture of the future of american democracy, it is donald trump stomping on the face of american democracy, forever, because people have seen that this can be done. and now, what happens when the next president? we're going to have to come up with a an anti-trump legislative package at some point. and take all knenorms and make m laws. you know, if you want to run for president, you have to release your tax returns. you have to put your business in a blind trust. when you lose an election, there are certain things you can't do, as president. you know, we're going to have to institutionalize what has been norms, good behavior, matters of good judgment and good manners. because donald trump reminds us that he is -- he has spotlighted one of the great weaknesses of american democracy, which is that we expect peo

military tribunal in norm back. of the $185.00 additional defendants $24.00 were initially sentenced to death. we need to i don't think that we germans back then or even later on condemned those criminals. the allies did it for us. it need just v d she applies i don't know how those trials would have gone in a german court. after the last of the american led trials few attempts were made to capture and prosecute other nazi war criminals the world was preoccupied by the cold war and germans once again had the say in their own courtrooms so many former nazis remained in positions of authority in the young federal republic of germany. many of the others who had blood on their hands were never caught. after being let in the direction of democracy by the allies the victors who freed us it would really have been good to clean house and charge everyone. but naturally people didn't want that especially those guilty of crimes. when. they used their connections to prevent that and then the supreme court exonerated all of the

the norm back trials are considered the birth of the international criminal law. please are you. only thing that's positive about my father's criminal life. that it was partly because of him. these 4 charges were invented products and that people like him could be put in the dock to teach. in a class, frank carries a photo of his executed father. he says, every time he feels even the slightest bit sorry for himself, he remembers the pictures from auschwitz and then he feels the verdict reached at the nuremberg trials was the right one. and there's justice still means a lot to an express frank, even after 75 years since the beginning of the cold in 1000 pandemic, many people have been investing more time in their hobbies. they were less me is from switzerland and her passion is a yellowing. but she and her choir can no longer rehearse as freely as they used. so the risk of spreading the virus is just too high. so it's our land recently introduced stricter measures to curb the spread of the corona virus. and that has also affected life in vegas as village of kunda in the swiss alps

the norm back trials are considered the birth of the international criminal law. those are you only thing that's positive about my father's criminal life. that it was partly because of him. these 4 charges were invented products of the people like him to be put in the dog. to nicholas frank carries a photo of his executed father. he says, every time he feels even the slightest bit sorry for himself, he remembers the pictures from auschwitz and then he feels the verdict reached at the nuremberg trials was the right one. and there's justice still means a lot to an excess frank, even after 75 years since the beginning of the cold 910 to make many people have been investing more time in their hobbies. but they will ask me if it is from switzerland and her passion is a yellowing, but she and her choir can no longer rehearse as freely as they used. so the risk of spreading the virus is just too high. so it's our land recently introduced stricter measures to curb the spread of the corona virus. and that has also affected life in vegas village of kunda. in the swiss alps.

chief ideologist, alfred hawes and bag and hans frank were among the leading nazis to go on trial in norm. back on november 20th, 945 joining him on drilling in the dark. many of the other big names in the nazi party, had it ready disappeared by that point or like adults, hitler had committed suicide. nuremberg was the site of the annual party rallies. huge propaganda event designed to showcase the nazis power. those who had once enjoyed the adulation of the crowds, here at the rally grounds were now called to account for their actions a historical 1st. never before had the leaders of a state been forced to face trial for their actions. the germans were to be shown how a democracy works. alfred toma a retired judge was obliged by the americans to defend alfred always in back. he was chosen because there weren't enough lawyers deemed sufficiently on the tainted cannot. tahan sometimes accompanied her father to the courtroom. it was a tense and oppressive atmosphere as far as i was concerned, and filled with a sense of disgrace. good ladan, they are most fear the worst are the charges level

i think norms are less important than kind of an understanding of what interests are and how to advance the interests there's no doubt that the united states of america will have its national interest unlike all the other sovereign states acting out there in the world will try to get to advance its own interests but the idea that you look at the world is a 0 sum game that what the united states wins means necessarily that someone else loses rather than through cooperation serious cooperation coalition building. with other nations through coordinated multilateral action these are all potentials to strengthen. american influence and to advance american interest this way of looking at the world was totally foreign is totally foreign to a donald trump who saw everything in terms of strictly bilateral relations rather than a rather complex interaction of different countries with unique interests. asymmetric power some are more influential than others but that their deals can be done. in a a way that is much more complex than simply i when you lose that is sort of the mentality of going to th

talk about the pattern of breaking norms that you write about in this great piece. >> thanks, dana.d to see you. >> you too. >> you know, it is such a familiar pattern and we just didn't know where it was going to go when we were back in 2017, but what we have seen over all these years is this pattern of dehumanizing people, delegitimizing institutions. think of what he did on the campaign trail when he derided a federal judge for his mexican heritage, man born in indiana, happened to be of mexican descent, sort of skorng him. so many statements he made during the campaign, we wondered would this fall away when he became president but right away we had the charlottesville incident where he talked about the white supremacists almost on equal terms as counter protesters, saying after a young woman was killed in that car assault, there are very fine people on both sides. in fact, it's interesting, dana, that that's one of the reasons joe biden got into the race was the racial rhetoric of president trump back in 2017. so he was undermining individual judges and then really compromising

, procedural norms under this president, particularly in terms of the principal committee meetings.an you talk a little bit about that? it's the thread you talk about, and just doesn't come out of the blue when you're talking about the trump presidency and the cia. >> this is a white house that not only has declared war on process and on norms. this is a white house that essentially declared war on government from day one. i will never forget denis mcdonough, the outgoing white house chief of staff for obama, telling me that when the clock strikes noon on june the 20th, sitting in his office waiting for reince priebus, the chief of staff and his staff to arrive, and nobody showed up. he waited an hour or more and finally just turned off the lights and left. to me that's a metaphor for the presidency, but it's not the first time that process and norms have been abandoned. in one case is 9/11, that's go back to that for a second because one of the things i learned in the book, i did a documentary in 2015 for showtime by the way called the spy masters in which we told the story of the

we're going to have to institutionalize what has been norms, good behavior, you know, matters of good judgment and good manners. because donald trump reminds us, he's spotlighted one of the great weaknesses of american democracy. we expect people to be of goodwill in high offices, and he is not one. >> thank you, fareed. we need a zoom call with a fire and a glass of wine and brandy. >> i think it will take more than wine at this point. >> yes. all right, fareed. >> double scotch. >> all right, that's where you're going. thank you, fareed zakaria. the book is "ten lessons for a post-pandemic world." make sure to watch "fareed zakaria gps" sunday at 10:00 p.m. >>> we've had the highest one-day total of coronavirus cases since the pandemic began. but you wouldn't know it to look at the crowds at the phoenix airport, the day after the cdc recommended people cancel their holiday travel plans. d fleas? see ya! heartworm disease? no way! simparica trio is the first chewable that delivers all this protection. and simparica trio is demonstrated safe for puppies. it's simple: go with simparica

returning to norms, as different as those norms might be. certainly, we all have to deal with some issues, and the like, i don't think as a manager it is our job to focus on that. question,gets to the in the short term with vaccine optimism we had seen whether it is returned to normal trades, airline, cruise liners getting better. then the question is, what happens when we returned to the normal? justrecrisis normal was tech doing really well and everything else kind of so-so. after we get to something resembling normal, do we just go back to the kind of crisis low inflation, yield grinding lower, tech outperforming? or is there something that could meaningfully make the rotation sustained? dan: the argument i put forth, in this case, it is the interest rate. while i think the markets would higher over the next couple of months. i think with the expectation that nominal and real interest ,ates should drift higher things are probably going to see an extended version of what we have already seen. they rotation for outperformance on the part of

my question is also for norm, about the extended trip for the crew-1 astronauts. on the last flight, with demo 2, with the lengthy trip, we saw a glimpse into what life on the crewed dragon was like. i am curious, with this added time, what we can expect to see from the astronauts on this one. te ofwe get a tour, a tas what that bbb like on monday, prior to their arrival -- will we get a tour, a taste of what on monday,e like prior to their arrival? norm: the crew gets prepped, go up in the vehicle, get launched, and obviously, once they get into orbit, they will do a series of orbital burns to get them set up for that phasing to get to station. the crew has a timeline. we can get you information on it. i do not know if there are any press briefings in that time, but the crew is in constant contact with the ground. i am sure you will be hearing from them relative to that. they go to sleep -- they have a standard sleep period. they wake up, after sleeping in dragon, and start getting prepped. situated,ast, get start prepping for the day. it is a very important day,

criticized by rights groups who say it could mean blurring the faces of police offices, becomes the norm in news reports, or go to another vote in the upper house in january. to stay with us, al jazeera world is next. i'll have more news for you. during that bye for now. dan i am with you and the link to you was to be with us and i'm a woman who spent her life between her pens, stationery books and research. all my thoughts have been centered around ideals. and this idealistic life made me ignore how militias people could be ignored, the malice, and some people's deadly poison disguised as softness. here, the other thing you know, there's a fuckin misfit, the little get off the free and open and i'm alone. and i'm going to get in saying, well, if a class with me at the mental insanity of kathy shadow mazie or the thought of the wal-mart. yeah, jani would agree, but i knew how to play men. when these years i learned feel at the villa out of the united in canada, near of the highlands mazie or the other lot of be over the leaves may not collect money at that will all be fee, then he can be

is this going to be the -- the new norm? >> man, i really hope not. i think that the loss of that, even just for this period of time, is a real tragedy. and it's a real disgrace, as scott just put it. look. this is a president, who has flouted a lot of norms for his entire time in political life. but, at the same time, what is so much more distressing about this moment is that he is being enabled and supported by many, many people who know better. who do know better. who understand that, as scott said, this is not an election that is going to be overturned. when you look at the united states and its standing around the world. what standing do we have, now, to tell countries around the world that they ought to respect the results of their election? when the sitting president of the united states is saying, now, that the only way that he would accept a loss is -- i mean, actually, that's not even what he is saying. what he's saying is that he will never accept a loss. i mean, that is an antidemocratic notion and it should be called out for what it is. s

there are some norms he busted that we repeatedly heard about from every democrat who ran this cyclepaign as something they would restore. among the things we heard about was the white house press briefings. i think that the white house press briefings are an important tradition, but they, in this administration, had almost no utility whatsoever by the end. will there be things a president-elect biden and maybe a president after him decides not to continue with, readouts with foreign leader calls, specific sharing of schedules, things like that? i don't know. i think trump has been so ingenuous i have a hard time , seeing a lasting imprint of a lot of what trump did. i don't think we are going to elect a wealthy reality tv star/real estate developer in the future, with that specific combination. but it is an open question. i am flipping at a little bit. i think there are things that he did that he discovered he could get away with doing, not just not releasing his tax returns, but certainly up there. will there be other elected officials who find that it is kind of appealing to not g

but you talk about the steamrolling of norms by this president even going out of office as something that will or could do, quote, lasting damage to both the stature of the presidency and institutions of democracy. yes or no, are the actions the president taking now putting this country in danger? >> clearly it's not great for our democracy. >> okay. >> that's a fair -- let's put some teeth on that, if we can for a moment. because there are sitting members of congress who were around in their positions at the time of 9/11, and the 9/11 commission report specifically cited the shortened transition after the 2000 election for having an impact on national security. i'm quoting here, "it hampered the new administration in identifying, recruiting, clearing and obtaining senate confirmation of key appointees." the fact is we have experienced for how shortened transition make a difference in national security. why aren't we hearing from republicans about that, granting that potential danger? >> i mean, you're absolutely right, the 9/11 board in a situation very analogous to this where the g

or does it feel to you this is an assault on typical norms? >> i worked in a presidential transition way back when. i know how important it is 20 get started and get the information and your people in place. i fully understand what the biden team is doing. as they name officials and who they will appoint to the positions. pat toomey said, the judge dismissing the case in pennsylvania, has exhausted all of the legal options for the trump campaign. certainly in the state of pennsylvania. it's time that the president just recognize the result. it's important for the ongoing of democracy, that all of us respect the will of the american people. i think you will see a larger course of republicans in the coming days come out and say what pat toomey said. >> i looked at it as an embarrassment. you had foreign leaders all over the world, meeting and gathering together for the pandemic. and you had the split-screen of president trump, while he was there briefly. but he was out at his virginia club for a good chunk of time yesterday. how does that make u

. >> so with those stories and the abandonment of procedural norms. and with the principal committee meeting. and with the trump presidency and the cia. so on the war on the process this is the war on governing will never forget the outgoing chief of staff for obama so when the clock struck noon on jh he is waiting for winds previous to arrive and nobody showed up he waited an hour or more and then finally turned off the lights and left. to me that's enough of the presidency but it's not the first time that norms have been abandoned. so let's go back to that because one of the things that i learned in the book and the part that was called the spymaster's from july 2001. and then the number of persuasive of the ncaa. now we had to do july 2001 and with the heads of the cia. look national security advisor and then you shake the tree when all those people at the table back. number of people told me they think had condoleezza rice called the principals meeting they would have discovered that they were on us soil and had been for months because we all know

and values and standing up norms and values and standing upfor norms and values and standing up fortions in countries where they are under threat, working together much more closely with our aquatic friends and allies on things like fighting climate change, on infectious diseases, on a whole range of global threats and challenges and i think strengthening nato is going to be crucial. you've had a president for these past four yea rs president for these past four years who has questioned whether america would come to the defence of its nato allies, who has really damaged the solidarity within the alliance so solidarity within the alliance so you solidarity within the alliance so you are solidarity within the alliance so you are going to see i think joe biden as president emphasising how we can work together with our allies and partners instead of maligning them and working against them. so more unity, essentially echoing the message of his speech just a couple of hours ago. i will get you now going specific again on your areas of expertise, russia. how does that relationship develop

so with that, i'll turn it over to norm. >> thank you, joe, and as stated, the review today went very well. weeingo that. and stepping back to the cycle with just the journey leading up to this, and it was evident that the closed out work and the less work there was in the overall readiness level in the team for this vehicle. so it was very encouraging, an absolute focus on crew safety and vehicle safety. which both the nasa and the spacex teams have done a very good job with. and we're very satisfied with that. this was on the heels of dry dress yesterday, as steve mentioned and that went very well and it was the first opportunity to let the crew set up and try out the vehicle to make sure that the fit was right and there were no last minute type things that needed to be tweaked up prior to launch and that went very well and we're excited about that. i had an opportunity to meet with the crew this morning to talk with them a little bit about their upcoming launch and they were absolutely excited. and you could just feel the radiant excitement coming off of them. and in fact, when i w

but will there be trashing of elections and elections officials and norms and election results?nk, and rick knows more about this, i am an amateur here, but the most important people in the republican party today, about the future, are not mitch mcconnell or kevin mccarthy or anybody thinking of running for president. it is rupert and lachlan murdoch , it is the people run breitbart runople who smacked -- who newsmax. if they say the election isn't legitimate, that is where the energy is. what we need to be watching is all those entities over the next 75 days. where did they land? because where they land is where think most republicans feel they have to follow that. , let me allow you to wax philosophical. given what david highlighted about the media and polarization at this emergency of a reality where facts are not agreed upon, how do we find common ground? is it possible? theomebody who works at failing "new york times" where do we find common ground? maggie: it's a great question and one that i have been asked a lot and one i wish i had a better answer for. i'm not sure. the

not norms. with that as the context, you talked about transition. one of the guardrails must be the incentive for president trump to initiate transition next week or this month at all? >> well, the incentive should be that he likes and has a vested interest in keeping this country safe, but even if he wanted to disregard his oath of office, which certainly puts him in charge of the armed forces and our national security, as a practical matter he's got family here just like the rest of us. these are very dangerous times, victor, make no mistake about it. it was only 30 days after bill clinton took office that the first world trade center attack happened. and has often been reported on cnn and the other outlets, a 9/1 9/11 commission said the delayed transition led to the weakened security for terrorists at 9/11. this is not something donald trump should be doing. when it comes to national security, it should be and is above politics. >> i want to listen to what oklahoma senator senator james langford said earlier. >> there is no loss in that happenin

it's just not even within the norm at all. there's questions whether it's even legal. >> let's get more from cnn's jessica dean, live for us in wilmington, delaware, she's covering the biden transition. good morning, jessica. >> reporter: good morning to you, yeah, i was in the room yesterday during that press conference, you enjoguys. and it was interesting to president-elect biden's demeanor shift a little bit when he was asked about his thoughts on the delay in this transition about president trump refusing to concede. you saw him really choose his words carefully, and really take this very thoughtful moment to really collect his thoughts to give his opinion of what's going on. his team is forging ahead best they can without formal access to these federal agencies, to coronavirus data, et cetera, et cetera, without the presidential briefings. the fact remains, the transition process has simply not begun in the way it typically has, and he talked a little bit about how all options remain on the table but he was pretty firm i

trump has ignored many of the norms of the office. -- mr. trump has ignored many of the norms of the office. would be a gesture strikingly presidentracter for inflamed passion. a voter in tennessee who did not vote. good morning. go ahead. caller: i just wanted to make a few comments. i'm very data centric. it did not follow the typical pattern. along with that some of the transparency issues we have had centers, i guess just an overview for the american people, the media does not have the authority to anoint or coordinate a president-elect. and that elect status cannot be aren until those votes ratified by the state. host: you said you didn't vote. why is that? timer: i didn't make the necessary to do it. it didn't work out for me. had i voted as a libertarian, i would have voted for trump. host: keith is from madison, wisconsin. caller: good morning. i have been listening to some of your right wing callers over the past several weeks now. a lot of them say they weren't going to vote for biden because he was a communist. i'm really l

and i'm really afraid we could see some real breaking of norms. trusting the vote counters.he two closing messages of biden and trump, which you have had on tonight. biden's basic message is be together. trump's base siic message, be afraid. >> now, you said if trump wins a second term, the world won't see us the america they once knew but as donald trump's america. do you think that's the case now or do you think there would be some added layer that would change america's added preference? >> chris, every country through its history has always -- or many democracies have elected outliers. sometimes, you know, radical pop you lists. but they usually course correct. we have done that here in the united states. if we now re-elect him, if we affirm his presidency, then that's no longer an outlier event. that's who we are. that's who we will be seen as to the world. given the fact that trump is such a transactional character, we would be seen much the way china and russia are seen, just another transactional country whose basic foreign policy is show me the money. that would be