let's bring in cnn legal analyst norm eisen. he won, norm. he won.ng on twitter. trump won. they're not delivering the documents as planned tomorrow. >> well, chris, the -- twitter diploma of law is not the most valuable certificate. >> it's the best i got. >> in the land. what happened today is good news for getting these documents into the light of day. it's another success for the committee, and it's a very promising development. let me tell you why. as we talked about yesterday, the court has put in -- the appellate court has put in a short administrative stay. but rather than the months and years of delay, they have together with that ordered extremely rapid briefing, not on another state to replace the administrative one but on the merits. all briefs are going to be due, and we're going to have oral argument before the end of november. chris, this case was filed on october 18th. that's extraordinary speed. it reflects the importance of the matter. we've got three brilliant jurists who will see through trump's phony claims. so anyone who doesn't

for that, we're going to turn to norm eisen, next. what is it?randdaughter. we're so glad you're here. ♪ come on over! oh honey... she just needs some time. how was school? you ought to be very proud. i'm proud of you. here's another picture of your mommy. she smiled so hard, her front tooth popped out. goodnight grandma. did you call me grandma? ♪ with framebridge... make what matters to you last. halloween, '72. jojo's adoption day. uncle leo's legacy. summiting kilimanjaro. asher's art phase. the moment you knew it was love. whatever you treasure, make it last. framebridge. >>> the chair of the january 6 committee says about 20 new subpoenas are going out soon, this as lawyers for the former president appeared in court to try to keep documents about the capitol riot secret. let's discuss whether the government works well enough to uncover the truth with norm eisen. what's the answer? >> the answer is, yes, it's already starting to uncover the truth. and chris, it will now be up to the d.c. circuit to prove me right or wrong. >> so you go throu

let's discuss with norm eisen. what's the answer?'s already starting to uncover the truth. chris, it now will be up to the d.c. circuit to prove me right or wrong. >> you go through. you get the documents. you see trump was talking to people. there was some kind of knowledge. there was a semblance of suggestion that let's see what happens. he was too quiet for too long. then what? >> well, the thing had a happens next is that we see the devastating consequences of the insurrection. and i think we're going to get these additional documents. and i think they're going to have some very explosive information in them. it's clear that the judge is going to open the door, chris. i think on appeal, it's going to move quicker than some fear. >> am i wrong to be cynical about the impact of the outcome, to see -- i see support for trump as people using him as a proxy for their animus against the system. he has never been an antidote. he has always been a virus, because people hate it. will that change? >> chris, i think we have already seen a n

how about norm eisen. welcome back.ption in bannon's argument, which is this. a letter from the former president's lawyer to his lawyers saying they intend to assert privilege and not to testify is enough. is it enough in form, first of all, meaning to them, and not to the committee and in substance? >> chris, the letter is not enough. bannon had an obligation to do what we see the former chief of staff mark meadows doing. you have to negotiate. you can't just rely on a paper by fiat. bannon is not the judge in his own case. and chris, you have to show up and take the questions one by one, like jeffrey clark, the lawyer from the justice department did. he refused to answer him, but at least he showed up. and chris, the letter has to make some sense. bannon wasn't a member of the executive. so executive privilege, which bars information from being shared can't apply to him. many of the subject matters were about his podcast or his conversations with people who were not in the government. the whole thing is a lot of nonse

let's go to norm eisen. norm, this should not come as a surprise.er and ask her to overrule herself? >> chris, thanks for having me back. donald trump and his lawyers are not exactly famous for their legal acumen. the shrewder move would have been to go straight to the dc circuit. there is an argument that under the federal rules of appellate procedure, they're required to exhaust efforts in the district court. but judge chutkin was clearly having none of it. they tried to dress up their argument as something different, chris, as a stay. judge chutkin rejected that out of hand. she said, you want another injunction? i just told you you had a junk case, goodbye. so they fail yet again. now we'll see what happens, they'll undoubtedly rush to the com court of appeals, to the dc circuit. >> what do you think happens there? >> well, a lot will depend on the panel of three judges that they draw. there have been different panels deciding things lately. so it's possible that they'll get a very short administrative stay while there is rapid briefing, emergen

let's discuss now with norm eisen. norm, great to see you. happy thanksgiving. any legal merit to that claim? >> jessica, thanks for having me back. happy thanksgiving to you. and the permanent damage to the presidency that was done was when ex-president trump incited an insurrection on january 6th to attack his own government. the disclosure that congress is seeking here has the exact opposite effect, jessica, of what trump is arguing in his papers as is so often the case the truth is the opposite. getting these documents out will advance the interests of the presidency by helping congress to legislate and prevent this from ever happening again. >> right. and on tuesday a federal appeals court plans to hear legal arguments on the trump administration records, specifically on whether it has the authority to rule on trump's effort to executive privilege here and essentially block their release. what do you see coming out of that? >> well, we only have one president at a time in the united states. this case, what will be heard by the december circuit, the appeals

with us now is norm eisen, former counsel to house democrats during the first impeachment trial of president house ethics czar. good you have to here. circling back to the documents and the hearing under way right now involving former president trump trying to shield certain documents from the january 6th committee, how do you read the judge's comments? she seemed to have criticism for both sides here. ana, thanks for having me back. thought she was far more skeptical and critical of president trump's claims of executive privilege. she did have some tough questions for the house of representatives but they had good answers, ana. on the -- on the challenge to president trump she made the point, look, you're no longer, sprump no longer the president. the current president says these documents should be released, isn't that it the end of the yaert. that's correct as a matter of law. that's the basis of her decision. she said she would be expedition and she brushed aside claims that there was kind of an injury that would justify the preliminary relief that the president wants. on the side of the

norm eisen, thank you. >> thanks, brianna. >>> both the prosecution and the defense have rested their cases with closing arguments set to begin on money in the trial of kyle rittenhouse. overnight, rittenhouse's mother spoke out on television praising the judge. >> mr.the judge is very fair. the people i talked to that live in kenosha all their lives, they told me judge schroeder is a very fair judge and he doesn't allow no nonsense in his courtroom. >> joining me now is laura jarrett and alexis hogue. professor, the mother of the defendant likes the judge. what does that tell us? >> clearly. i think it was going over and above that statement. it questions is this judge actually fair if the mother proactively is going on air to speak and vouch for his fairness? to me that gives me because and reservation. and i question his fairness, which is clear. >> from the very beginning the trial has been so fraught because the judge from jump said you cannot call the people who were killed victims in the case. but you can call them rioters, looters, arsonists. that's where the issues of fairnes

. >>> joining us now, norm eisen, the house judiciary special counsel president trump's first impeachmentd to have you with us i want to pick up where jessica left off as we talk about timing. there has been a lot made of this well worn playbook we know, former president trump uses, to delay, delay, delay, tie things up in the courts. this judge has moved fairly quickly here, we're at this point today. a, how quickly do you think we could get a rurling, and, b, dos that send a signal if that ruling is followed by an appeal? >> erica, thanks for having me back on the program. i think we're going to get the ruling quickly because the judge is going to want to leave some time for trump to seek an emergency stay from the appellate court if he loses. i do believe that he is going to lose. he has the worse of the argument here because while he can assert executive privilege as he's done, the presidency is not a hereditary office that travels when he leaves. joe biden is in charge and for that reason he's the final decider. we'll see a quick decision, i think, and then an appeal -- emergency app

i want to go now to norm eisen who served as counsel to house democrats during the first trump impeachment trial. and dana bash, our chief-political correspondent. and of course, co-anchor of state of the union. norm, let me start with you. you know, look, i know 150 people have appeared before this committee, right? and i'm sure many of them have shared important things. but some of the most important people are stonewalling, have tried to stonewall. so let's talk about these six that we are talking about here. how important are these individuals? >> erin, thanks for having me back. they're very important because january 6th was not an isolated event. there was a long run-up to it of incitement by the former president. and so, you have individuals, like stepien and miller from the campaign who are privy to the behind-the-scenes planning. then, you have individuals, like kerik and eastman who were part of the infamous insurrection war room at the willard hotel. again, the behind-the-scenes planning, the exchange of information, proving that there was a long fuse that was lit that led to th