. >> and let's talk about normnormize -- norm eisen, and he was the counsel for donald trump in the first impeachment, and what is your reaction to this? >> it is another milestone in the compatibility of the events that culminated january 6th. you have three lawyers participating, and a federal judge has called assault on the 2020 election a coupe in search of a legal theory. jenna ellis today, last week, ken cheese sebro and sidney pows plea are important, because ms. ellis spoke to the false facts that underlie the assault. so i think it is a significant milestone as we continue to seek accountability for the the events of the 2020 election. >> yeah. >> norm, standby for one second, because i want the bring back in nick valencia who was the only journalist inside of the courtroom for the moment of the emotional statement from jenna ellis. nick? >> yeah, i just got out of the courtroom where we saw jenna ellis take that guilty plea, and the dominos are starting to fall against the former president, and another blow of the defense as yet another attorney takes a guilty plea from the alle

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i have talked with norm eisen, and josue mincey one, national security analyst and former adviser to u.s. state department. joe religious phi don't get your name perfect you go first. so here's the rule. this information we are talking about the significance of it you actually posted on x why this is so concerning. i want to read for the audience a bit about this, you said you held topsey security clearance in the past, you never saw this inform, and that trump giving this to a foreign national even an ally is a major breach. is this what they call actionable intelligence and what does that mean? >> it is actionable intelligences. some of the higher most highly classified information we have. i had i was covering nuclear secret weapons, i never knew what exactly the payload was for nuclear arms summaries. i don't know how close we can get to an enemies sub before detection. and the reason is you want the enemy to have maximum uncertainty. you don't want them to know exactly what your capabilities are. it's the essence of our deterrence theory. you want the enemy to be deterred from a

global affairs analyst kimberly dozier and cnn legal analyst and former white house ethics czar norm eisen right. put this into context for us, norm. sources tell abc that pratt relayed this information to 6 journalists, 11 employees, 10 australian officials, 3 former australian prime ministers. what could the security implications be here? >> pam, the security implications are profound. as you know, i served as the united states ambassador, the first thing that they told me in ambassador school was don't give away -- never mind secret information, be careful with any information you share with a foreign national. here when you have the number of nuclear warheads on our nuclear armed submarines and you have the distance that was allegedly disclosed, how close those subs can come to an enemy submarine without being detected, it calls our whole nuclear deterrents doctrine into question that keeps us all safe because the uncertainty of what our potential adversaries do and do not know is part of the deterring them from attacking. this is a profound betrayal, if true, and there is a lot of cor

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trump's legal claims, legal team claims i should point out, norm -- norm eisen is with us -- that the banks were repaid. that there really weren't any victims of this. what do you make of that argument? >> wolf, if i were to shoot at you and miss, would still get prosecuted. if you create false financial documents, if you exaggerate your property, if you allegedly commit insurance fraud, bank fraud, it doesn't matter if you happen to injure the banks or the insurance companies that time. there are many different ways that those materials are relied upon. and just like that shot that misses, you can still be prosecuted. the judge made this point in his very severe partial summary judgment. you keep making this argument, he said, to the lawyers, but i've already said it doesn't matter under new york law. and it doesn't. we don't want people lying in their business records. >> good point. gloria borger can with us. trump appeared several times today, making public statements before and after he was in the courtroom during the course of this. listen to what he had to say. here is some of

let's talk about this now with cnn legal analyst norm eisen and -- writer to political. number one, surprise, surprise, trump made the statement, there is a gag order in place, what will happen in this case or others if he does not follow? >> he will be sanctioned in the first instance, likely financial sanctions, but there is a slippery slope. if he keeps doing this, and in particular, hitting that nerve, the judges staff, someone who works with every day, so close to danger, that could also include in the extreme case, confinement under new york law. >> jack smith had raised in this case about what he did in other cases as well. is there connective tissue that one judge and one case would say, you defended us all. >> i think it's not in that way, i think that there is some connective tissue, towards this huge debate for weeks now that there should be a gag order in d.c.. this judge has did it and demonstrated that it does not have to be big to do, it's not that uncommon, particularly when you have somebody behaving as outrageously as trump is behaving, in and outside c