i want you to hear what norm eisen said. a big enemy of yours by the way. critic of yours and the former president. this is what he said on cnn today. >> we overthrew king george iii because we did not want a rural rulerto have absolute immunity. the supreme court has now altered that we have to be honest we are facing a major political candidate who says he wants to be a dictator on day one. they have just given him a license for dictatorship. >> brian: did that immunity -- did that immunity decision create a king and dictator? do you want to take that on? >> no. of course it didn't. look, norm eisen is like one of those japanese soldier still fighting in the jungles of the philippines in 1960s. he tried to get trump on the russian collusion hoax and involved on the first impeachment one of the legal master hinds minds behind this entire campaign of lawfare. is he angry the supreme court stood up for the constitution, for the separation of powers and for the rule of law and that they weren't willing to just rubber stamp these insane jack smith prosecutions

that norm eisen always a pleasure to have you on. appreciate your analysis thanks, rosemary you as house democrat alexandria ocasio-cortez is seeking articles of impeachment against supreme court justices. she wrote on x the supreme court has become consumed by a corruption crisis beyond its control. she added that the ruling represents an assault on america while casie it's up to congress to defend our nation from this authoritarian capture. i intend on filing articles of impeachment upon our turn. okay. as you're cortes did not say which justices should be impeached, but her references to corruption align with democratic allegations against samuel alito and clarence thomas are again, beryl has strengthened into the category five storm and is carrying 165 miles per hour or 270 kilometers per hour winds across the caribbean toward jamaica it's the earliest category five storm in history the u.s. national hurricane center cause a potentially catastrophic and says, it's expected to bring life-threatening winds and storm surge to jamaic

cases, but the future of all american presidents with us now to discuss the cnn, legal analyst, norm eisen and cnn presidential historian tim naftali. >> thank you, gentlemen for coming in on this really consequential de, norm first two, you we know the expression, no person is above the law. we say it all the time, is part of just convert per-station. did the court just decide that actually there is someone above the law, the president sarah even. the majority in this reprehensible opinion that represents a fundamental break with two-and-a-half centuries of american tradition pays lip service to the idea they write. of course, no one is above the law, but then they claim allowing the president to do things like commit political assassinations has no legal redress. well, what's the meaning of their proclamation that a president is not above the law. if he can engage in those kinds of conduct, this is one of the worst opinions in american history from the supreme court. a number of members of whom have fatal conflicts. they were involved in they have spouses or other involvement. alito and

for joining us now to discuss former federal prosecutor on kush kadoorie and cnn legal analyst, norm eisen on how much merit is there to the trump team's argument that look these were classified documents stemming from his presidency. they were boxed up when he was president yeah. >> look, i think a week ago, i think that would have been a pretty laughable argument. but in light of the supreme court's ruling, which is quite expansive and quite aggressive. i think trump's lawyers are doing the logical rational thing from a litigation matter and pushing this its argument as far as they can i think that it is a colorable argument. i think judge cannon may very well decide to accept it. i don't know. i think that would be an unfortunate outcome. but given that law that the supreme court created this week, and i did create this new doctrine of immunity. there are a lot of open and very expansive questions that are going to be you available to judge cannon who pursue and that could be resolved in trump's favor. now i will say one thing that even if these immunity argument somehow carries the day

jail instead of his former senior adviser, steve bannon joining me now it's cnn legal analyst, norm eisen i mean, in the world of obviously there's always something outrageous that the former president is saying the idea of supporting or even amplifying the idea for military tribunals of liz cheney is insane it is. >> and under the law of the utilization of military tribunals, where we've just had years of litigation because of the guantanamo detainees it would be completely contrary to law to use a military tribunals. not that she's done anything wrong in the first place, but just in general, the idea of vindictive prosecution, how will have a risk? is that how feasible, how easy it is? would it be for president to do that? it's, it's a dead serious risk. >> anderson former president trump has said dozens of times that he would contemplate doing that. he told sean hannity i would have every right to go after them, meaning his political adversaries. he told dr. phil sometimes revenge can be justified in the cnn debate when they were talking about trump being convicted felon, he said, joe

he'll be led in discussion by one of my dearest friends ambassadorrm norm eisen former ambassador to fellow at brookings institute where he works on governance issues i had the pleasureur of knowing norm workg closely with him. he special counsel to president obama special assistant to the president for ethics in government reform. if you want to understand what norm did he cap packs like me on the right side of the law inside the white house. though it's been a stronger and firmer voice on the threat or aspects of his personal history helps us understand helps him te understand one day a society can be seemingly normal and in one instance it has turned upside down. seems assured to all or somehow immediately denied to the most vulnerable. love this man appreciate he is giving us his time and his extraordinary voice and conversation we all respect norm is going to come up and introduce him will have a great conversation. [applause] all right, tucked in. thank you for everyone, patrick thank youan for those kind words my friend. i want to thank cap for all of the extraordinary things t