now norm ornstein is like a radical. they both talk in the piece how they cannot be on a show anymore unless they're balanced by republicane republicans. because in a sense they become the story themselves. it's almost tragic that this very well researched book that puts their reputation on the line saying we've got to call this out, puts them outside the pail. and they're radicals. it's really a fascinating process. >> this is an interesting story because it seems to me that reporters are always on their good. now did you hear from know other side. did you check out the other -- i don't see sources here from the other side. that's all good journalism. but if you torque a piece to the idea that both parties are basically what they've been, you miss a big story. norm ornstein's argument is you can't look at this past election like the center left versus center right and if you do you're not telling the big story. >> there's two issues here. one is the policy issue the republicans moved so far to the right. one that dan fr

. >> rose: we conclude this evening with norm ornstein, he is author of it's even worse than it looks, how the american constitutional system collided with the new politics of extremism. >> we have reached a small amount of the dysfunction out of the with in past election. you have got more republicans who recognize that it is no longer in their interests to let us go over any cliff, because of short term politics will work to their advantage, the tax issue which has been the difficult part, the super committee we have it i call the avengers in politics, with powers untold in our history, that couldn't reach an agreement because the taxes, republicans wouldn't agree to any significant increase in taxes now they are talking to amounts that will reach that point and i am confident we will get something done. >> rose: jake tapper, ian mcewan, and norm ornstein when we continue. >> funding for charlie rose was provided by the following. >> >> rose: additional funding provided by these funers. and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. from our stud

. >> two familiar faces to regular c-span booktv watchers, norm ornstein and thomas mann. their most recent book, "it's even worse than it looks," how the american constitutional system collided with the new politics of extremism. mr. ornstein ,-com,-com ma very quickly, what's the premise of your book? >> first i have to say peter that we have been with c-span since the beginning and i have pictures of my office of not writing sessions on the fifth anniversary of c-span, which is a very long time ago. >> and i was on the panel. with a very young newt gingrich among others. >> very thin newt gingrich too but that's a different story. this is a the book really about the reality that in 43 years, two of us have been immersed in the politics of washington washington from one in the pennsylvania avenue to the other, we have never seen it this dysfunctional. the dysfunction is that a critical mass and we felt we had to speak out about how the problem is and is the book says even worse than it looks. it never looks good and we have to talk about who is at fault in what we can do

. >> two familiar faces to regular c-span and booktv watchers, norm ornstein and thomas mann. "it's even worse than it looks: how the american constitutional system collided with the new politics of extremism." mr. ornstein, very quickly, what's the premise of your book? >> first, i have to say, peter, that we've been with c-span since the beginning, and i've got pictures of my office of moderating sessions on the puffth an vest ri of c-span which was a very long time ago. >> and i was on the panel. >> and he was on the panel, with a very young newt gingrich among orrs. [laughter] a very thin newt gingrich, but that's a different story. this is a book about the reality that in the 43 years that the two of us have been immersed in the politics of washington from one end of pennsylvania avenue to the other, we have never seen it this dysfunctional. the dysfunction is at a critical mass, and we felt we had to speak out about how the problem is, as the book says, even worse than it looks. it never looks good. and we have to talk about 40's at fault and -- who's at fault and what w

rnc chair, meeblg steele, e sfwl ra clean, the "new york times" hugo lindgren, times rona, and norm ornsteinf the american enterprise institute. can you follow alsxex now at facebook.com/now with alex. andrea mitchell reports next with chris sitting in for andrea, and will he have the president's live remarks on the fiscal cliff. good afternoon to you, chris. >> hello, joy. thank you very much. coming up, are we close to a deal? president obama will speak in about 30 minutes. we'll have it live. also joining us delaware senator chris kuhns, jack kingston and maryland democratic congressman elijah cummings talking about the cliff and the deal, maybe. we're also live at new york's presbyterian hospital with the latest on secretary of state hillary clinton's condition. andrea mitchell reports is next. we can afford to take an extra trip this year. first boston... then san francisco. hotwire checks the competitions' rates every day so they can guarantee their low prices. so our hotels were half price. ♪ h-o-t-w-i-r-e... ♪ hotwire.com

. >> two familiar faces to regular c-span and booktv watchers, norm ornstein and thomas mann. their most recent book, "it's even worse than it looks: how the american constitutional system collided with the new politics of extremism." mr. ornstein, very quickly, what's the premise of your book? >> first, i have to say, peter, that we've been with c-span since the beginning, and i've got pictures in my office on the fifth anniversary of c-span which is a very long time ago. >> and i was on the panel. >> and he was on the panel w a very young newt binning rich, among others. [laughter] a very thin newt gingrich, too, but that's a different story. this is a book really about the reality that in 43 years that the two of us have been immersed in the politics in washington, we have never seen it this dysfunctional. the dysfunction is at a critical mass, and we felt we had to speak out about how the problem is as the book says even worse than it looks. it never looks good. and we have to talk about who's at fault and what we can do to get out of it. half the book is about how we can

. >> brown: norm ornstein, christina bellantoni, thanks so much. >> suarez: still to come on the "newshourargeting pakistan's polio eradication workers; state department security failures; the pros and cons of saving versus spending and north dakota's senator elect. but first, the other news of the day. here's hari sreenivasan. >> sreenivasan: amid the fiscal cliff fight, members of the house and senate paid final respects today to the late senator daniel inouye. the hawaii democrat died monday at the age of 88. he had served as a u.s. senator for five decades. inouye's body lay in state in the capitol rotunda, an honor that's been bestowed on just 31 people. at a service, senate majority leader harry reid called him a legend of the senate. >> senator inouye was one of the deluxe senators to ever walk the hallowed halls of this great building. heleaves behind a gacyof public leadership and private kindness that will not be forgotten as long as these walls stand. dan inouye was an institution, and deserves to spend at least another day in this beautiful building in which he dedicated his li

and thomas mann and norm ornstein on their book of partisanship in congress. >> the tension builds inone of the things that happens during that time is that a soviet submarine is found by american ships. and there are charges on a soviet submarine. a knock out the electrical system. the carbon dioxide is rising. people are passing out inside the submarine. they have no communication with the commander. the commander loads the torpedo, the war started already in the war is starting. they want to launch the nuclear torpedo. fortunately, one of the other commanders on the ship from a lower rank talked him out of it. it might have saved the world. >> of this is so close to the edge. it really was one of the scariest moments after this. >> they said we didn't notice. honestly, we were teenagers. my god, we wouldn't even be here to talk. >> director oliver stone and peter koznick of the untold history of united states senator nunn on 10:00 p.m. eastern on booktv's "after words." part of four days of nonfiction authors and books through new year's day on c-span2. >> at brookline on his book

norm ornstein has been quoted probably too many times for any data collected in one place.in the '90s he wrote an article that i might've been in some were quoted. in your quote was i had no idea. i thought to myself, if you can get quoted for saying that you have achieved a unique status in washington. i congratulate you on that. [laughter] >> our third speaker is bill wichterman. he is currently in the public policy practice. previously he served as special assistant to george w. bush in the white house. he is a policy advisor and senate majority leader to bill crist and worked in the senate in pennsylvania. he has great experience in matters of the house and senate. he is very unique and at the top of the pure land and his time spent in grassroots efforts for senate rules and precedents. he has also worked with the rick santorum campaign. he has also published works in political theory. our poor speaker will be brian darling. he is from the heritage foundation for the time being. he is part of the senate counsel and for now he is senior fellow of government studies here

spent in the recent book, "the broken branch," veteran congressional scholars tom mann and norm ornstein argue that increasing partisanship in congress has undermined both public confidence in the institution as well as its ability to perform its constitutional role. how would you compare your experience in congress with congress today? have you noticed an increase in partisanship? lack of comedy? has that hinder the ability of congress to legislate? what they see as the solution, assuming there is a problem, what do you see as the solution to the problem? >> at times i'd like to describe as two different worlds. the world that i was introduced to in 1959 was not a partisan world. it was a world in which debates were loud and clear, but after the debates were over the men would get together, for smoke or a drink, or have dinner together or visit each other, discuss problems. and you found democrats with their best friends being republicans, and vice versa, which is very common. something you don't see today. and i've tried my very best to be as nonpartisan as i can be, and today it's no