let's bring the story back to norma mccorvey. so the abortion decision is made by the supreme court in 1973. she was pregnant in 1969. so many people believed as you did that she had had a abortion what actually happened yeah, i was i mean just to step back you say as i did. it's true the way the way i got into this whole. crazy decade of work was i was reading an article in 2010 about gay marriage which mentioned that sometimes a plaintiff is wonderful for the cause she represents and sometimes she isn't and in the latter category, they mentioned norma because as well discussion she switches over to the prolife side and then they mentioned parenthetically that she'd not have the abortion. she saw it and i said, oh my god that of course not because law case takes longer than the gestation of a baby. and so i then dove into this world, and yes, i found out that she is pregnant in 1969. she gives birth in june of 1970 and she relinquishes that that child to adoption now. as the years go by the pro-life world looks at that unknown c

yes, well, i actually met jane roe, norma mccorvey, at a pro—choice demonstration after roe versus wade we work together, she had her voice heard, helped with that, then she became anti—choice, but as a deathbed confession she confessed she essentially only do that for the money, became anti—choice, she was always pro—choice. but as to me, i have clearly been pro—choice for many years, own life experience, because when i was in my 20s, i went to mexico on a vacation, i was raped at gunpoint by a doctor. i came back to california, this was of the 60s, it was unlawful, it was a crime for a woman to have an abortion at that time in california. it wasn't a crime for the woman but it was a crime for a doctor or nurse or licensed health care professional to provide one, so i had to go to a back alley person who did it for the money, who then left me in a bathtub, haemorrhaging, bleeding, blood all over me, and ultimately someone called and ultimately someone called an ambulance for me, and i was taken toa an ambulance for me, and i was taken to a hospital, and packed in ice with a 106 degrees

here's gloria allred and norma mccorvey after abortion became a constituional right., and this is not on the precedents, it's called a super precedent, roe v wade, and it'sjust catastrophic called a super precedent, roe v wade, and it's just catastrophic for women and in the united states that roe v wade may finally be reversed, because that means it's going to be turned back to the states to decide if they wish to make abortion a crime, to ban it or not. they want to codify the right to abortion. president biden set on to say that if the draught is the supreme court's final decision, his administration will be ready when any ruling is issued to codify roe versus wade. but like the confirmation of supreme court judges, they need to send it to agree, some democratic senators have said they would oppose this, which means the next elections are critical. our correspondent is in washington. let's cross there now. a huge issue, this, and those next steps look complicated from the democrats plaintiff via absolutely. you see quite a sense of urgency, this idea of codifying r

women's rights attorney gloria allred, who defended norma mccorvey — otherwise known as jane roe — inen speaking to my colleage ben thompson. there are five of the nine justices on the united states supreme court, who clearly oppose roe v wade and even though some of the language of the draft opinion may be changed somewhat, i think in the end, they will strike down roe v wade, which has been the law of the land for almost 50 years and this is not only a precedent, it is called a super precedent. roe v wade, and it isjust catastrophic for women and girls in the allotted states, that roe v wade may finally be reversed, because that means it is going to be turned back to the states to decide if they wish to make abortion a crime, to ban it or not. half of the states in the united states have already indicated that they will ban abortion in their estates if roe v wade is reversed. some of them have already done so, in violation of the constitution. others have triggered laws, meaning those laws banning abortion will go into effect on the 1st ofjuly or the 1st of august if and when roe v

. >> and i want to ask you gloria because you're in this unique position that you represented norma mccorveyoe, we know that she expressed remorse at the end of her life, she switched sides and said she accepted money to be part of the antiabortion movement. how do you think she would react to this moment, and can you shed some light a little bit on her? >> yes, because i did help her to have a voice. she wanted to speak out in favor of the right to choose legal abortion, and we did together do that for a number years, and then at a certain point she became anti-choice. she still maintained contact with me, however. we had a very cordial relationship because knowing that i'm pro-choice, i support a woman who chooses to have an abortion and a woman who chooses not to have an abortion, but i knew she was really not anti-choice, and she at the end of her life, you're correct, did give a death bed confession, so to speak, on tape in which she admitted she'd always been pro-choice. she really only became anti-choice, money to be an anti-choice speaker. she needed it. i'm not going to criticize he

she is the eldest daughter of norma mccorvey, known in court documents as jane roe, the plaintiff inrsus wade case. melissa, we appreciate you being here. first and foremost, take us into the moment that you heard about this leaked draft decision. >> i was in shock. i was -- i couldn't believe it. i mean, this is going to take us back -- it could take us back 50 years. and a lot of unnecessary deaths and a lot of, you know, for women that may not be able to have health care that they need to take care of their families and themselves. yeah, it's shocking to see that we could be set bag like this. >> you say unnecessary deaths because you believe women will go try to get abortions in unsafe ways. >> they'll take matters into their own hands. they're going try to help themselves if they can't -- the people that can't travel to the places that they need to or, you know, get the help that they need to take care of what they need to. it's going to happen. it's happened forever, and that's why roe helped us. it helped all women to take care of themselves and their families as they needed.

women�*s rights lawyer gloria allred worked with norma mccorvey, otherwise known as jane roe, in thehe was always pro—choice. as for me, i have clearly been pro—choice for many years because of my own life experience. when i was in my 20s, i went to mexico on a vacation. i was raped at gunpoint by a doctor. i came back to california and this was in the 60s. it was unlawful, it was a crime for a woman to have an abortion at that time in california. it wasn�*t a crime for the woman but it was a crime for the doctor or nurse or licensed health care professional to provide one, so i had to go to a back alley person, who did it for the money, who then left me in a bathtub haemorrhaging, blood all over me. and, ultimately, i had someone call an ambulance for me and i was taken to a hospital and packed and iced with 160 degrees fever and almost died and that is where a nurse said to me, i hope this teaches you a lesson, because she was obviously anti—choice. and i did learn a lesson but the lesson i learnt was that abortion should be safe and legal, affordable and available, and never illeg

the women's rights attorney, gloria allred, who defended norma mccorvey, otherwise known as jane roe, is reversed. some of them have already done so, in violation of the constitution. others have triggered laws, meaning those laws banning abortion will go into effect on the 1st ofjuly with the 1st of august if and when roe v wade is struck down. so this is very dangerous. what is even more dangerous is that some of the states which were what we call havant states, states where women who lived in states where abortion became a crime could go to the other states, like the women in texas who couldn't get an abortion after six weeks would go to the nearby state of oklahoma to get a legal abortion. oklahoma has now passed a law that is like texas's law which also bans abortion, so they won't have that status of haven. many women will not have the funds to travel to save states like california where i am now, or new york or other states where abortion is protected and will remain legal. they will not have the bus fare or train fare, they won't have gas for their cars. they won't be able to