plus, opera legend jessye norman, lauded as one of the greatest singers of her generation, discusses her decades on stage, and how she learned to "stand up straight and sing." >> what is so wonderful, is that everybody's voice is different because you're different on the inside. and that's what changes your voice. >> woodruff: those are just some of the stories we're covering on tonight's pbs newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: ♪ ♪ ♪ moving our economy for 160 years. bnsf, the engine that connects us. >> i've been around long enough to recognize the people who are out there owning it. the ones getting involved, staying engaged. they are not afraid to question the path they're on. because the one question they never want to ask is, "how did i end up here?" i started schwab with those people. people who want to take ownership of their investments, like they do in every other aspect of their lives. >> united healthcare-- online at uhc.com. >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions >> this program was made possible by the corporation for publ

flight. >> reporter: the congressman and the airport point out that the perimeter fencing here at norman mineta international does meet faa and tsa requirements. the congressman wonders if those requirements need to be raised. >> reporting live at norman mineta international, bob redell, nbc bay area news. >> thank you, bob. just into our newsroom, police have arrested a man in connection with the city's 13th homicide of the year. officers say 22-year-old gabriel alejo stabbed a mother of three to death in her apartment on tuesday. detectives say he knew the victim, 28-year-old teresa maravilla. alejo was booked into jail for murder. >>> and the mother of the bay area woman who died while zip lining in hawaii, they're waiting for answers on what exactly caused the accident. police say the 29-year-old who was originally from santa rosa lived in hawaii. she worked as a guide at the zip lining company. she was zip lining yesterday morning on maui when she fell 150 feet into a deep ravine. by the time the rescuers got to her, it was too late. >> shea go through the gulches and, so it made it

norman? >> top that for clarity by the way. >> i'll try to add clarity myself. the issue is enormous. i can speak on behalf of form pharmaceutical firms that spend billions every year doing research and development. as we move forward and try to develop new lifesaving medicines, we continually build kmem cal platforms and pharmaceutical platforms in hopes of reaching a site where we can apply for patents. what we're seeing are numerous instances where interlopers are stepping in and trying to steal our trade secrets on our formula prior to the time we can reduce those into a patent application. very often may take two or three or perhaps longer -- two or three or longer years to do enough research to get to the single molecule that we'll be able to carry on into clinical trials. if we lose the trade secrets, and all of that formula, prior to the time we can reduce that to a patent application, the loss is ir revokable. we may spend 10, 20, $30 million building a chemical platform, rich divers

norman, you can go first. >> sure. thank you. again for the legislation is introduced your we greatly appreciate it. we greatly appreciate your leadership. the instances of what it would do on a positive standpoint is that we believe the legislation to obtain a federal trade secret remedy, particularly the ability to seek and export a seizure of stolen materials -- ex parte, for the disclosure or divestment of that information broadly would be a very positive gold standard for future discussions on harmonization and trade secret laws around the world with our major trading partners. it's important i believe to get beyond the state trade secrets laws which are often a bit unwieldy and difficult to enforce across state lines simply because the procedures are not always set up to work very well along those lines. but with a federal standard with the appropriate kind of ex parte control, i believe we can show the rest of the world why the gold standard would look like as far as giving us the rights on our own to take a private civil

norman? >> top that for clarity by the way. >> i'll try to add clarity myself. the issue is enormous. i can speak on behalf of form pharmaceutical firms that spend billions every year doing research and development. as we move forward and try to develop new lifesaving medicines, we continually build kmem cal platforms and pharmaceutical platforms in hopes of reaching a site where we can apply for patents. what we're seeing are numerous instances where interlopers are stepping in and trying to steal our trade secrets on our formula prior to the time we can reduce those into a patent application. very often may take two or three or perhaps longer -- two or three or longer years to do enough research to get to the single molecule that we'll be able to carry on into clinical trials. if we lose the trade secrets, and all of that formula, prior to the time we can reduce that to a patent application the loss is ir revokable. we may spend 10 20, $30 million building a chemical platform rich diversity

stuart: 20 to $30 million, norman rockwell classic.u sold a picture of two boxes, one black, one white. i am very sorry, $85 million. would you pay $20 million or $30 million for that one? >> i didn't know i was still on. what i pay that? yes. i am going to make an offer, all little embarrassing. i was going to make an offer but don't know how high my amex goes up to. >> we must talk after this. stuart: i want to show picture of thomas moran's grand canyon, another piece of american art, you are looking 8 to 12 million, a beautiful picture. >> painted in 1904. he spent a lot of time in the american west in the late 1800'ss drawing sketches before color photography and painted these majestic sublime scenes for the grand canyon. stuart: return to my theme, $745 million in one night for contemporary parts but much lower prices for these classics, norman rockwell classic. explain yourself. >> nor rockwell, the highest painting sold by norman rockwell went for $47 million so he has high price point objects that cell and his paintings in the

john norman lost control of the nissan before it broadsided a truck. his wife died at the scene. the chp plans to ask prosecutors to charge john norman with vehicular manslaughter. >>> donald sterling's estranged wife says she supports the nba's banning of her husband after his racist remarks went public. she co-owns the los angeles clippers with donald sterling and pledged to help the league find a, quote, fresh and accomplished new leader, but statement from shelly sterling did not messenger the nba's plan to force the sale of the clippers. >>> anyone who thinks they've had too much to drink on cinco de mayo can get a free cab ride home in san francisco from 10 tomorrow night until 4:00 tuesday morning. they're also offer odd new year's eve, to st. patrick's day and halloween. ♪ >>> a mariachi band got a jump start on celebration friday oakland. drummers and dancers entertained people in the fruitvale district. >>> still ahead at 6:00. we'll look at the violence in the ukraine today. that is an indication that civil war may be coming. >>> from furries to one man discos to whate

john norman lost control of the nissan before it broadsided a truck. his wife died at the scene. the chp plans to ask prosecutors to charge john norman with vehicular manslaughter. >>> donald sterling's estranged wife says she supports the nba's banning of her husband after his racist remarks went public. she co-owns the los angeles clippers with donald sterling and pledged to help the league find a, quote, fresh and accomplished new leader, but statement from shelly sterling did not messenger the nba's plan to force the sale of the clippers. >>> anyone who thinks they've had too much to drink on cinco de mayo can get a free cab ride home in san francisco from 10 tomorrow night until 4:00 tuesday morning. they're also offer odd new year's eve, to st. patrick's day and halloween. ♪ >>> a mariachi band got a jump start on celebration friday oakland. drummers and dancers entertained people in the fruitvale district. >>> still ahead at 6:00. we'll look at the violence in the ukraine today. that is an indication that civil war may be coming. >>> from furries to one man discos to whate

one of them is norman, 19 years old. >> what would be the motivation? >> there was no motivation. that's the worst part. a completely unprovoked attack. they left him with a broken nose and a broken cheek bone for which he required surgery. fortunately this was caught on video and 19-year-old norman con was identified, that's him here, he was convicted and has to spend 12 months in community corrections and was also issued a 270 hour community service order. >> good. >> why just one? there was a bunch of kids attacking the guy. >> not clear on how many other of the people involved were charged but they will be facing charges. >>> this is going to surprise you. this is a road rage incident in russia. two grown men that seem to have run into each other here and they're in a scuffle. notice there's a boy watching them, witnessing this entire thing. you know what, that boy is the son of the guy with the striped shirt. he's not just goi to sit there and watch his dad get in this fight.over, grabs a baton, starts hitting the other man in the suit, telling him, hey, get off my dad. the g

one of them is norman khan, 19 years old. >> what was the motivation? >> there was no motivation. that's the worst part. it was a completely unprovoked attack. they left him with a broken nose and a broken cheekbone for which he required surgery. fortunately, this was caught on video and 19-year-old norman khan was identified. that's him here. he was leaving court. he was convicted. and has to spend 12 months in community corrections and was also issued a 270 hour community service order. >> there was a bunch of kids attacking this guy. >> not clear on how many other of the people involved were charged, but they will also be facing charges. >>> college grads like to go back to the old stomping grounds, check out your old alma mater, see old friends. a guy named clark rahman graduated from florida state fsu in 2012. you see, he's been out of town a little bit because he's not just clark rahman, he's sergeant clark rahman. and he just spent nine months serving in afghanistan. being greeted by friends and family, but this isn't just about a homecoming to go back to your old frat hous

>> supervisor norman yee. >> thank you. i'm not too sure. you mentioned the number of youth all these programs are serving -- >> i don't have the exact numbers for this year. last year we were table to serve well over 2,000 young people through our strategies. i can get you the exact number. we were able to get supplemental funding to expand our programs. >> and then in 2000, you're talking most of them would have had some employment opportunity? >> yes, thank you. that's one thing i for got to mention. aside from the career awareness strategy, which is really more kind of work shop and career awareness activity for young people, the other strategies i mentioned in our youth force portfolio has a paid work force component, so a work experience or an extended work force or a shadow. >> i'll be interested in knowing the numbers for the john oconnell. >> so in that strategy, there are three levels of work that are being done. the first is some core and more intensive work with 25 students at each of the schools and that includes counseling, wor

. >>> a norman rockwell painting called the rookie sold at action for more than $2 million.round and he told lee cowen the amazing story of how he was drafted. >> i was 18. >> oh, my goodness. you were the rookie. >> reporter: sherman safford's moment of immortality began at his high school lunchline. i was hungry. it was noon time. i went down to the cafeteria. sitting down next to somebody he was smoking a pike. >> he had to be somebody. >> he had to be somebody. nobody smoked in that building. >> reporter: that pipe-smoking fellow was norman rockwell, the artist famous for celebrating small town america. he was finishing an oil painting for a 1957 cover of the "saturday evening post." the topic, baseball. the scene, the arrival of a young rookie in the boston red sox locker room. the players were all real, but rockwell needed a cheerful nobody, so he plucked safford out of that massachusetts cafeteria and paid him 120 bucks to play the hayseed. >> what did he see in you? >> i think he saw a raw bone kid, athletic, skinny. attention right off the bad. the hair was pretty s

it was everything i wanted. >> with filming complete, norman and dominic start editing.yer the three shots on top of each other. isolating michel and removing the garbage cans using a kprex process call -- complex process >> and then watch the latest exploit. >> people just want to share the mess unfolding. you know good can't come from jumping on a trampoline on to a car, and then of course it doesn't. >> internet detectives scour the video for clues to faker and catch a mistake. can you spot it? >> look at the shadow of the car. in the moment of the crash, it doesn't move. no! no! how could we be so blind? >> mistake aside, the trampoline trick just add to the internet legend of michel and sven. it looks like that legend will live on. >>> from crafty kids to a spacey spouse. let's face it, when you just had surgery, you probably don't want to be trending on the internet. >> oh, my -- ow! >> this is this genre on line of people coming out of anesthesia, and the strange things that can happen. >> it's one thing to act loopy, but is it possible to have absolutely no memor

nobody smoked in that building. >> reporter: that pipe-smoking fellow was norman rockwell, the artistng small-town america. he was finishing an oil painting for a 1957 cover of the "saturday evening post." the topic-- baseball. the scene-- the arrival of a young rookie in the boston red sox locker room. the players were all real, but rockwell needed a cheerful nobody, so he plucked safford out of that cafeteria in pittsfield, massachusetts, and paid him 120 bucks to play the hayseed. what do you think he saw in you? >> i think he saw a raw-boned kid, a young kid that was athletic, skinny. the hair is what grabbed his attention right off the bat. it was pretty shooky. he put a hat on me because it looked so bad. >> reporter: rockwell often based his paintings on photographs, a technique he talked about with edward r. murrow on the cbs broadcast "person to person." >> you don't just take a photograph and tint it. you reassemble it and change it. >> reporter: we found rockwell's photos from his shoot with safford sitting in the archives of the rockwell museum in stockbridge, massachusett

his wife has been identified as norma norman. no one else was hurt. >>> it would be a tiered surcharge for single family homes that increases with water use. a flat fee would effect apartments and other customers. water officials will discuss the idea at a meeting tomorrow night. >>> three sacramento teens busted for stealing a comic bookstore's are now saying yabayaba don't. the comic book owner did not want to place charges instead asked them to dress as a flinstone and help promote free comic book day. they say they were glad to give back to the store. >>> making the most of waste. one states unusual plan to put used toilets to good use. >> is there a chance of showers heading our way. ktvu's meteorologist mark tamayo joins us next when we can expect a little bit of a change in the weather. >>> we're wrapping up the first weekend of play with a few clouds and cooler temperatures out there. one more cooler day in the forecast as we head into your monday. as far as the temperatures from this afternoon, they range from the lower

norman rockwell for $200. all right. here's jimmy to start us off.n 1916, "boy with baby carriage" earned norman rockwell $75 and his first of more than 300 covers for this magazine. julia. what is the saturday evening post?

>> i don't know, but we used to have influence from britains, normans, arab, spanish.blender. >> oh, look, my octopus! i remember personally catching that one. it was a mighty struggle, too. no, actually i don't. >> yeah, the octopus. >> pretty, beautiful little shrimp. very tender, the octopus, very nice. and another traditional speciality. i'm told they call this tuna tartar. and cuttlefish, i recognize you, my friend. how traditional is this to sicily? >> i think from the part of the sea they almost eat a roll. >> always. >> yes. >> but fisherman only, fishing communities only or in restaurants? >> no. >> always as long as you have been alive, you see crudo like this? >> no. i see crudo in the poor family. >> so, it's not like there's japanese influence, but the japanese sort of gave everybody permission to eat traditional foods, their own traditional food. what are the great mother sicilian classic dishes? >> the anchovy. anchovy and parmesiana. [ speaking foreign language ] >> that's with the sardine. >> yeah, but it's an explosion of flower, but this plate, it's

history but you taller than and honor everyone else a that's made this city a great city now that norman has blessed this places let's cut the ribbon and welcome everyone to this wonderful restoration thank you for being here today (clapping.) we'll be cutting the ribbon gown down in front and lunch on the other side >> 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. >> yeah. (clapping) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> we're here to raise awareness and money and fork for a good accuse. we have this incredible gift probably the widest range of restaurant and count ii destines in any district in the city right here in the mission intricate why don't we capture that to support the mission youths going to college that's for the food for thought. we didn't have a signature font for our orientation that's a 40-year-old organization. mission graduates have helped me to develop special as an individual they've helped me figure out and provide the tools for me that i need i feel successful in life >> their core above emission and goal is in line with our values. the ferraris yes, we made 48 thousand >> they were on top of that it's a no-brainer for

and so that -- [laughter] factoid is fun to play with because that was norman mailer's creation.d mailer said that it was really for a small falsehood, something that was repeated often that was untrue like nine out of ten small businesses fail during the first year or something like that that's repeated millions of times but has never been proven and is almost invariably untrue. but almost immediately factoid became a victim of its own definition, and people are now using it to mean small fact, inaccurate things. the first meaning in the dictionary is a falsehood, the second meaning is a truth, a small truth. so it's a wonderful thing. and poor norman mailer, blame him for that one. there's a mystery section over here, little bit. very close. but -- [inaudible] was a wonderful one that ida nash created murder mongress for agatha christie. and it was used in a poem to rhyme with library of congress. who dun it was a guy named donald gordon, a critic in 1930. and, of course, little gray cells for the brain matter for perot, that was agatha christie. one that's a lot of fun to talk

history but you taller than and honor everyone else a that's made this city a great city now that norman has blessed this places let's cut the ribbon and welcome everyone to this wonderful restoration thank you for being here today (clapping.) we'll be cutting the ribbon gown down in front and lunch on the other side >> 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. >> yeah. (clapping) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ role call please. >> mr. haney. >> here. >> miss mendoza-mcdonnell. miss wynns. miss few few. fewer. >> here. >> please join me in the pledge of allegiance. er. >> here. >> please join me in the pledge of allegiance. >> thank you, approval of board minutes. the regular board minutes meets of april 8, 2014, may i have a motion and second please. >> i move the adoption of the minutes . >> second. >> role call vote please. >> mr. han main. haney. >> yes. >> miss norton. >> yes. >> miss wynns. >> i. >> miss fewer. >> yes. >> miss [inaudible]. >> mr. logan. >> yes. >> thank you, that's six is. >> item b. superintendent carranza. >> the time and clock is ticking and the school year is winding down and i'd like to take this opportunit

said conduct -- >> let me finish. >> it says -- >> let him finish. >> the organization -- >> let normanish. >> thank you, don. article 35 of the constitution of the nba talks about conduct prejudicial or detrimental to the nba. it doesn't say speech and words. and therefore, they are in trouble because legally -- >> you're lawyering it now. >> should we throw the law out? >> come on. speech can be conduct. >> no, speech is not conduct. >> it is a different matter and donald sterling will be very well represented in whatever legalities come from this. >> so if i did a radio internet show, doing hate speech, and can i say, they are free speech. >> you can do that. >> let me do my free speech. you request say what you want at home and then there is a danger in public. >> there was a danger at his home. >> that's my point. i should be able to say at home, i hate don lemon. i hate being on the air with him. >> not if you're with someone else in the room. >> then defend yourself. >> that's the problem. sterling can't defend himself. because it is indefensible. if you want to make comments abo

when norman was born i mean you kind of car ownership is in school. geelong coach in london. two women will choose to ignore. and i will. it's the and. in china and day to all who call on them so i sat next to us. i am going to find it's also important. now the battle. high. and on their safety. i'm sure. goss said. and that does not mind since that time. last weekend try. the total the success thy itself all in all the leagues where he learned alot from storytelling and shown by far is from the snow. based on the experience he created several famous crimes yet in my day i get the dog did now ha. and while i do not stand on piano. the man was. it was after the founding of the prc. joshi lead in the board shall start a monthly magazine which was the first portal for art magazine after nineteen forty nine. five stop publication after a few shoots. over subsequent years. john had a desire to create another magazine. given the new trend for fall starts. wall the half. in eighteen fifty seven. the first issue of the national vacancy for book arts was created. she was thrilled to s

history but you taller than and honor everyone else a that's made this city a great city now that norman has blessed this places let's cut the ribbon and welcome everyone to this wonderful restoration thank you for being here today (clapping.) we'll be cutting the ribbon gown down in front and lunch on the other side >> 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. >> yeah. (clapping) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

officers say 33-year-old john norman was under the influence of alcohol and speeding when he veered off the road near calistoga last night and hit a tree. his wife, 33-year-old deandrea, died at the scene. he was airlifted to accept rosa memorial hospital with serious injuries and is expected to face charges of felony dui. >>> new details on a vallejo fire that displaced nine people living in a converted garage. firefighters say seven adults and two children were living in the detached garage on lincoln boulevard that caught fire just after 5:00 this morning. one person was treated for smoke inhalation, the red cross is helping the fire victims. flames gutted the garage and caused other damage. the cause of the fire is said to be suspicious because the garage was not listed as hey having electricity. >>> some scary moments after the mayweather -- maidana identifying. spectateyears ran from cover, rushing out of the venue, after some in the crowd thought they that's gunshots. reportedly the nose that caused the scare came from a metal detector that fell over, adding to the chaos, a heate

officers say 33-year-old john norman was under the influence and speeding when he veered off a road near calistoga last night colliding with a tree. his wife a 33-year-old woman died at the scene. he was airlifted to the hospital with major injuries. he is also expected to face charges of vehicular manslaughter. . >> a community is rallying around a boy fighting cancers. all the proceeds from an auction last night at the elk's club in san ran fell will go to ron's family. ron died from a heart attack not long after his son zeke was diagnosed with cancer. zeke's cancer is called rms and it attacks his muscles. when he was diagnosed it was at stage 4 but despite all of that the family is in good spirits. >> they are survivors and they are staying positive. they are getting through stuff. sometimes it's a difficult situation, but they are persevering. >> zeke's mother said he is doing okay. his body is responding well to chemotherapy. he will start radiation next month. >> up next, an exciting and disappointing game 7 as the warriors and clippers battle into the final minutes. the details o

and services committee my name is david campos and i am the chair and we are joined by supervisor norman yee. eric mar will be here shortly, the clerk is derek evans and i would like to thank sfgtv staff who are covering this meeting. we have one item on the agenda today. let's begin, mr. clerk,. >> please be sure to silence all cell phones and electronic devices completed speaker cards should be submitted to the clerk. >> thank you rkts, if you could

i am supervisor norman yee and i will be chairing this meeting. joining me will be supervisor katy tang. the clerk today is alisa miller. the committee would also like to acknowledge the staff at sfgov-tv jennifer low and jim smith who record each of our meetings and make the transcripts available to the public online. madam clerk, are interest any announcements? >> yes. please make sure you silence all cell phones and electronic devices. [speaker not understood] should be submitted to the clerk. items acted upon today will appear on the june 3rd board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated. >> okay. can we have a motion to excuse supervisor campos from today's rules committee meeting? >> so moved. l >> okay, with no ok, motion is passed. [gavel] >> madam clerk, can you please call item number 1? >> item number 1 is a hearing to consider appointing one member, term ending march 31, 2016, to the commission on aging advisory council. there is one vacant seat and one applicant. >> okay. there is one applicant for just one seat and, eleanor lur

. >> i'm laura norman i lived 20 two blocks from the bowie carts for years. i've been involved with trying to make improvements 90 to the parks for 10 years. it's a tiny park not servicing the needs of the neighbors well, i'll is that in the 14 years living nearby i've never been to read a book there any son spent many years there and he couldn't play on the grass. the dogs are a huge problem the brother of the kid that spoke earlier said my brother was bitten he went to the hospital i have a photo. i ask when you evaluate there's 3 elementary schools nearby and no one have a single blade of grass we have one park but the little ones can't make it up the hill. this long term services many children and would love to bring her children there are that i i i want to address the process and people not knowing until further along in the process the initial process was signed and lost of us worked together and described more than 5 hundred flyers on houses nearby if you use the park or cared about the park you having would have known there was a meeting going on and

as this commission is aware there is currently pending [hr-eulgts/]ion introduced by supervisor norman yee that would amend the mcd controls within ocean avenue nct and that an nct -- mcd may be -- allowed with 500'. this first heard at the land use very many committee in april and if aproofed by the bdr board of supervisors. essentially the project sponsor because it's located within 500' of another mcd if the permit is in the issued by dbi, has to get conditional use authorization. the department received total of 22 letters in opposition and 64 letters in support of the proposed mcd. i have brought hard copies of the email. the department recommends to approve the mcd can withins. again the planning department's review is generally limited to the location. in relation to elementary or secondary schools, public or private or recreational buildings or a permitted community center that primarily serve those under 18. therefore the staff recommends approval to the project based on meet ing these criterias. well, served by transit along on and off ocean avenue, et cetera. the department

history but you taller than and honor everyone else a that's made this city a great city now that norman has blessed this places let's cut the ribbon and welcome everyone to this wonderful restoration thank you for being here today (clapping.) we'll be cutting the ribbon gown down in front and lunch on the other side >> 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. >> yeah. (clapping) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> 7 and a half million renovation is part of the clean and safe neighbor's park fund which was on the ballot four years ago and look at how that public investment has transformed our neighborhood. >> the playground is unique in that it serves a number of age groups, unlike many of the other properties, it serves small children with the children's play grounds and clubhouses that has basketball courts, it has an outdoor soccer field and so there were a lot of people that came to the table that had their wish list and we did our best to make sure that we kind of divided up spaces and made sure that we kept the old features of the playground but we were able to enhance all of those features. >> the playground and the soccer field

history but you taller than and honor everyone else a that's made this city a great city now that norman has blessed this places let's cut the ribbon and welcome everyone to this wonderful restoration thank you for being here today (clapping.) we'll be cutting the ribbon gown down in front and lunch on the other side >> 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. >> yeah. (clapping) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ today we are going to talk about fire safety. we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. it's a wonderful display. a little house in the urban center exhibition center that shows what it's like in a home in san francisco after an earthquake. one of the major issues that we are going to face after earthquakes are fire hazard. we are happy to have the fire marshall join us today. >> thank you. my pleasure. >> we talk about the san francisco earthquake that was a fire that mostly devastated the city. how do we avoid that

. >> so for me, this is not -- norman yee's legislation in a vacuum. it's an issue. >> [ inaudible ] [ >> staff, is the health department here? -ryan, yes >> good evening, ryan program manager of medical cannabis dispensary. i would be happy to answer questions. the waterfall wellness went through chain of owner shapbecause some shep is not involved and triggerered a change of ownership and they have a director's hearing. we are waiting for the decision made for you today so we can have both at the same time and decide at that time if we're going to allow both locations, one location, no locations throughout. director aragon will decide that. >> what are you considering usually in your hearings? >> operation. we look at the security plan. we look at the history. we look at the business structure. if there is a past history? we'll consider that. we'll look at most of the time, they have been approved in the past, there hasn't been a long -- there hasn't been many that have just sailed through that have not sailed through the process and that is why we w

from norman oklahoma, joshua landers, director of the university of oklahoma's center more middle east studies, and a member from the hafic harir. >> center. you heard a member of the opposition. he sounded like their side of the question can prevail. in your view, is it too late to defeat president bashar al-assad? >> no, i don't think it's too late. insofar as the position controls pager population zones and key geographies and has access to recruits, small arms and supply line, it's not too late. i would agree with you that the regime managed to consolidate to the extent where their survival is not at risk. >> joshua, what do you make of the situation now? has the tide turned in the favour of the damascus government? >> yes, it has. i agree with fisal, that it's not offer. there'll be a long and difficult insurgency for the regime to face. the rebels will be able to keep it alive. they have backers and in the united states. the united states is not going to look at them and throw in their lot with the rebels. the four largest rebel armies on the ground are not for democracy. that is