prime minister trades amaze old home of his colleague norman baker who's david cameron as a minister of state building thanks for coming back on we're going to go to lehman brothers in a second but obviously with two more liberal democrat all of them conference i got to ask you as a house member to the other week will you be becoming the next leader of the democrats and sits with lloyd george and with him to had since that action when liechtenstein wouldn't so well cock up us all forward and also the prime minister your old colleague at the home office was we going to be covering it later in the show said parliamentarians should not be appearing on this channel because you risk becoming a propaganda asset for vladimir putin and no one's propaganda that i've always put my own mind will continue to do so and i believe in an open free democracy and one could snoop in for you press people to switch off or you can just agree that we shouldn't be stifling people's voices that's a very dangerous road to go even the scottish liberal democrats all the right in emergency motion saying that imm

norman, steve baker was talking about a catastrophic split in the conservative party.ow accurate is that warning? that is probably still more rhetoric than reality, but it gives you a more rhetoric than reality, but it gives you a sense more rhetoric than reality, but it gives you a sense of the sort of grand canyon—like chasm that has opened up in tory ranks. brexit, with mrs may's opponents remorselessly trying to crank up the pressure on her to abandon her plans, with increasingly emotive and charged interventions from boris johnson and then this morning, of course, the former leader, iain duncan smith, saying the party could plunge out of power if it sticks to the chequers blueprint. the idea is to create a sort of rolling thunder campaign up to the party conference in the hope of that there, party activists will rise in protest against chequers, mrs may will crack and abandon the plan. i had to say, there is so far absolutely no sign of that. actually, today was rather a better day for mrs may, because her opponents confirmed that they we re her opponents confirme

norman smith. let‘s talk about steve baker and his winning first of all. much a fight to the death between brexit critics and theresa may and her determination to stick to the chequers deal. and there is no sign of either side backing down. if you listen to steve baker this morning arriving at westminster, he was pretty clear that the chequers plan was just not acceptable. was pretty clear that the chequers plan wasjust not acceptable. the chequers plan is not a compromise a cce pta ble chequers plan is not a compromise acceptable to the conservative party, you can see that but it is notjust eurosceptics. party, you can see that but it is not just eurosceptics. there party, you can see that but it is notjust eurosceptics. there are a lot of conservatives who just want to move past this dispute but what you will notice is there are conservatives on the remain side of the committee will not accept chequers and i have now reached a point where i have met conservatives previously disinterested and just automatically for the main thing we should go for no dealj

norman smith sent us this from westminster. the stark warning from the former brexit minister steve baker backed the party could split over at theresather strange of downing street to claim there is no plan or alternative. they themselves already claimed there is an alternative called wto. the word alternative should be dumped. we're talking about choices that need to be made around the kind of arrangement we need to have with the eu body flexibility is like, what does the change, at the heart things like the backstop arrangement which should never have been accepted by the government in december and is boxing into the checkers arrangement. first and foremost does not deliver on what the prime minister said, becoming rule—makers and not ruled ta ke rs becoming rule—makers and not ruled takers we're looking at this and the government should recognise this is about ideas, not personalities and we will be bringing forward a whole set of new ideas about the way to go and the better arrangement to the liver. brexit is unacceptable to the vast mass of the party and most mps. don‘t you need more than ideas and choices? we are six months aw