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us joining me now again on going underground is the sound of holocaust survivors. professor norman finkelstein known all around the world, the scholarly work on the effects of zionism. his books include image in reality, all of the israel palestine complex, the whole of cost industry and gaza. an inquest into each month of them. he joins me now from new york. thank you so much. progressive. think of stuff going back on the show. it's been too too long, arguably, i mean, as, as goals or phases that the fam, in your latest piece is about october the 7th. during analysis of october, the 7th by one of antonio gutierrez's officials, how important it has been the propaganda about october 7th, the the use of sexual violence and beheaded babies to allow the populations of the countries of germany, prominence breaking the united states in arming the genocide a l x of the what happened in october 7th, which remained murky and there are aspects which are fairly clear until there is an official investigation, which is the normal procedure, an international investigation which the one wants to carry out, b

i went to new york to speak to one of the foremost scholars in israel, palestine in 60 the norman finkelstein, thanks so much for joining me on a bright. thank you for having me. you've been an advocate for palestinian freedom for decades. you devoted much of your lives, certainly your scholarship to this. you've been called quote, the foremost jewish anti semite one planet or something, we will call you a holocaust denial. why does your work generate these types of responses? um, i think it's a kind of power the ox tell you the truth. because you will know my actual political opinions are very conventional and well within the main stream. for example, long after the whole of the left went over to this notion of one state. i was still advocating to states. whereas the whole left was trying to anchor their thinking and things like settler colonialism and this and that i was very firm. and just in repeating what international law said, i thought that was the best vocabulary to try to reach a broad audience. so the controversial part comes, i think from there's a certain element of i will say fa

on the ground with the option returns, the american political scientist and the activists, norman finkelstein breaks down the us political establishment, reliance on wealthy jewish donors. here's a quick taste of the full conversation, which you can watch throughout the day. here on our tea, let's move on then to this. suppose it, the more maybe is propaganda. mainstream media of the paper. here netanyahu faces crisis and us relations of to picking public fights with bible. you went to school, i understand with chuck schumer, the highest ranking. that was, he was, he was 3 years ahead of me in my high school. oh, what did you make of either he's previously said in 2010 that the people of god that most collectively be strangled. so you wouldn't take as much difference between chuck schumer and that you know, when it comes to supporting genocide. and yet, if you were to read the new york times or any of these cnn and bbc in sky news, you'd think there's this big split between blinking is being here in the middle east. is this manufactured given to the arms continue to be sense to uh, to netanya