we have reverend norman fong, former executive director of chinatown community organization, [inaudible], and then, we have two lovely guests who are going to start speaking on the zoom in just a second. and so we have dr. joyce, who's the cofounder and director of ucsf healthy environments and response to trauma in schools, and dr. michelle, associate provesor, department of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the ucsf [inaudible] for behavioral sciences. so i'm going to start off with the guiding question, and thank you, sarah and dr. harrison for sending them to me. okay. so what does healing mean to you, and where do you see a need for healing in, let's say for ourselves? and dr. joyce and dr. michelle, take it away on the zoom. >> hi, everybody. can you hear me? okay. just wondering if i should -- all right. great. i'm not sure if you can see me, but i am joyce durado. i am a clinical professor at ucsf department of clinical psychiatry and behavioral sciences. thank you for the opportunity to speak with you all. i know that everybody in this room is all about healing justice, and