. >> norman lear was the man who created archie bunker and "all in the family," and other hit shows likee jeffersons" and "maude." he had just turned 100 when i spoke with him, and the good news is that he recently turned 101. he is still at work, still pushing the envelope. >> you are going to piss a lot of people off, norman. you know that. >> it would be interesting. i am determined to find out. >> for all the progress we've made in race relations, and we really have, it continues to be a flashpoint. the subject of my conversation with singer-songwriter john legend. ♪ i wish i knew how it would feel to be free ♪ >> i feel like black people have been patriotic, forgiving in this country, fought for ideals that nation said we were founded on. we have done that for centuries. i think we believed in america more than america believed in us or itself. >> lee cowan reports on a part of the country where the tension between conservatives and progressives has taken on a particularly interesting form. a conservative slice of oregon that wants to move, lock stock and barrel, into idaho. and tha

'cause i just wanted to meet norman lear.end? legendary producer norman lear created the original "one day at a time" in 1975, and in 2017, he asked gloria to reboot the sitcom but now, with a latin twist. - he said, "well, we're thinking about doing a latino version." i was like, "i don't know, norman. i don't know if you should." and he was like, "well, why not?" i said, "'cause people try to do it, and we as an audience, we're a hard audience." - yeah, yeah. - because there's been such a starvation for representation that when one thing exists, we're like, "it better represent all of us." - no, yeah. because all we have is one show! - one! he's like, "so what do you think would change it?" and i said, "i'll tell you what i think would change it. "for me, its i'm gonna tell one story "about one cuban american woman that lives in los angeles "that's super, super, super specific to me and my experience." - yes, yes. - he's like, "let's do that." so i was like, "okay." so i walked out of there, and i'm like, "i guess i'm makin

light laughter ] i don't know we go to face time i get a phone call listen to this mel brooks, norman learth: it is mount rushmore. [ light laughter ] >> are calling me, and judd apatow. >> seth: and judd apatow >> who is -- who is, i guess, fdr. [ light laughter ] and uh - >> seth: look at -- here's - >> look at this! >> seth: look at your face >> yeah, i know. >> seth: that's -- >> i couldn't believe it [ light laughter ] i couldn't believe it. there's mel brooks >> seth: and here by the way -- this is lovely this is all of them in the room when they called you can i just say, i am in awe of dick van dyke and his spryness >> yes >> seth: all of them >> they're all young and fit, and there's all these food - i would be like this the entire time >> seth: yeah. [ light laughter ] >> they're all sitting up and talking. which is why they're thin and healthy. [ light laughter ] but there's mel brooks, norman on his phone because mel probably was talking about "history of the world," or they're going to do "producers" in london then, and my name came up i know norman as a friend. and so he goes

recognition and face, you know, this ladder, you know, farrah fawcett and and all the tv shows to develop norman lear and. so that's where their momentum sort of came from. there's a you have a story about a really interesting focus group early on that you that you hold. tell us about. yeah tell us about that. yeah. well, when i became the editor where i started groups to find out what people wanted, write about and and they were sort of okay but a focus group moderator read it out warm up the with an easy question you know to get them used to talking and so she would say who are you? and then i saw a couple of these groups. and then she stopped asking, who are your heroes? and i went to her and said, well, how come you don't ask them? here was senator moore. and she said, because they can't think of them. and then that's when i had sort of a eureka moment. that was an idea that sort of tied together some of the points that i could make about the celebrities and and the war that they were foisting upon and and in our attention span, we only have so much bandwidth and so paperwork, thinking less about

i just returned from a community where i was with norman lear, he is 101 years old , frank gary is 95ly engaged by your profession. and this is again relative. i think joe biden brings that kind of experience of prudence. the wisdom of the work is that he is a great president and will continue to be a great president, but again this is a relative thing. i can't judge. is health one of the factors influencing this? let's talk in the most positive way, we are talking about sound judgment , which is what a president should have. joe biden knows what he's doing, knows why he 's here, he has a great vision. future of america, he is well versed in these issues. he has so much experience that he can judge. he has great experience and a strategic approach. we 're in the capitol building, and you're going the wrong way. exit on the other side of the building, as we showed you on the map, joe biden's brain is turning to jelly, so is his body. and the further you go, the worse. i don't know what medications there are to hide this, but i think they don't exist anymore, probably what some people w