he said those clients, norman levy, stanley chase, norman levy was dead that he called stanley chase, shapiro said they knew they were doing illegal stuff for years, backdating stuff. he said they were doing the backdating ordering him to create fictitious trades to that benefit. and backdating trades. that was going on in the late 1980s there are new developments since we last or the reported on all of this mr. madoff says he has been communicating with the treasury department-offs office the inspector general regarding charges he made about jpmorgan chase and well he had his bank accounts and at jpmorgan chase for almost two decades. we have confirmed with the offers of the inspect store general they are communicating. this is from the inspector general's office and they said, that the inspector general's office did not initiate contact with mr. madoff. rather mr. madoff, through an intermediary contacted the oig's office. i want to say the oig confirmed they have been in touch with made made. said he initiated that contact. we pressed them to find out details of those discussions b