a debate about this let's talk about the medical side of it some rather say we've got only dr norman lewis on the line we're going to get more and said we couldn't get hold of him so let's talk about the medical side of this rather than the debate inside of it dr thank you for being with us i'm just looking at the headlines coming through now on a news feed the factories could be. forced to close in the u.k. you know it was death toll in italy rises by 27 percent to 9 british woman virus it 10 or even hotel test positive a covert 19 university of oxford chinese and other asian students and staff are isolated yet you know there's a lot let's talk about the stigma of this 1st of all there is a lot of there are a lot of people that feel that they're being ostracized if they're even going to a country that may have this kind of thing is it a how much of a problem is it you think 1st off. well i think i think there is a problem with people being stigmatized i think it has been some references for example to the kind of yellow peril i kind of resurrecting the kind of old anti communist anti chin

advice overload and no shortage of anxiety in the mix too reports the other technology consultant norman lewis and microbiology research and patel to share their expertise. compared to other respiratory viruses such as influenza this wire is relatively novel and new to us related coronaviruses such as sars and murderers. do you. prevalence i think many countries have been caught off guard i don't think this was an expected thing that a lot of people were predicting i think you need balance if you take something out to colossus' which is a very very low and dangerous virus illness last year there were $1200000.00 deaths from tuberculosis close is right for example in the u.k. are going up i don't see anybody wearing masks about you since i don't see trains being stopped eventually cities being locked down in the world that we live in right now especially with their travel patterns that most people follow it becomes extremely difficult to contain. such a virus especially one that transmitted respiratory really i think a lot of ordinary people are concerned about this and should be concerned i me

data it collects with the authorities got some insights from innovation and technology expert norman lewis he stressed the importance of the crisis but says it had to be balanced with the need for privacy to. and of course there's always a danger there joe this can go too far and i would argue there. when you have a situation of lockdown when you start using data likeness and the division between useful data and using this to survey people and whether they're behaving with not becomes slightly blurred area and that becomes point difficult we do need rationality and proportionality and we do need a balance and we shouldn't allow this to creep in in such a way that it does begin to challenge and threaten civil liberties and. i think that's a very fundamental principle to keep in mind because this virus will be defeated you know where will we be wafted that's what we should be thinking about as well. france currently has some of the toughest restrictions on movement in place as it handles $20000.00 known infections nearly $200.00 died on monday taking the country's total there to $860.00 but

advice overload no shortage of anxiety that makes 2 way brought together technology consultant norman lewis and also microbiology researcher patel to share their expertise they are. compared to other respiratory viruses search as influenza this wire is relatively novel in new to us they're related coronaviruses such as sars and murderers. do you. low prevalence i think many countries have been caught off guard i don't think this was an expected thing that a lot of people were predicting i think you need balance if you take something out to colossus which is a very very low and dangerous virus and illness and last year there were 1200000 deaths from 2 but the last was cheaper close is right for example in the u.k. are going up i don't see anybody wearing masks of achey but the law says i don't see trains being stopped the fancy cities being locked down in the world that we live in right now especially with their travel carrier that most people follow a big.

no shortage of anxiety the mix 2 we brought together technology consultant norman lewis and also microbiology researcher patel to share their expertise and they are . compared to other respiratory viruses such as influenza this is relatively novel in new to us related coronaviruses sars and murderers. do you. prevalence i think many countries have been caught off guard i don't think this was an expected thing that a lot of people were predicting i think you need balance if you take something out to colossus which is a very very low and dangerous virus illness last year there were 1200000 deaths from tuberculosis cheaper close is right for example in the u.k. are going up i don't see anybody wearing masks about you but the law says i don't see trains being stopped eventually cities being locked down in the world that we live in right now especially with their travel patterns that most people follow it becomes extremely difficult to contain. such a virus especially one that transmitted respiratory really i think a lot of ordinary people are concerned about this and should be concerned i mean it