c-span: norman mailer. >> guest: ...norman mailer. i'm sorry. c-span: it's easier for me; i--i can read it. >> guest: but you can see the headline that he's reading. well, he came do--and he's doing his research here, but he was--you know, this was the show to see. this was--you--you had to come, if you could, and be part of the--of the watergate hearings, and know that you witnessed history. and i'm sure that norman mailer, as busy as he is, as important as he is, knew the significance of these hearings for historical reasons. c-span: a couple quick technical questions. you say you use a leica? always a leica? >> guest: yes. c-span: any particular kind? i mean... >> guest: i use two--two different bodies. i always have. one is the m body, which is a range-finder camera. it does not have a mirror that makes a lot of noise. it's very quiet, and i used it a lot in the oval office or in any office that i photograph, because if it's--if--how quiet it is. i also use the--what is called the r series, which is a ra--which is a single lens reflex. it ha

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used to wear pulitzer dresses, we just bought this big soda book of the moon landings with the norman mailer text of a fire on the moon. and i was looking through these pictures of neil armstrong on the lunar surface, buzz aldrin and his sort of marshmallow space suit and just having sort of a tomboy moment because these are pretty male heroic images, until i turn a page and i am hit with this burst of color. .. they have this club, this sort of sorority that continues to meet to this day. they go on cruises and sort of continue to support each other through times and tragedy. one of the sweet things aboutnn the connection of the lives is many of them when i met themhe were a little -- war a littlere coldl priceless with a tinyf golden whistle on it and that's one of their symbols. whistle and we will be there for you. of course, it was only a matter winning over these women'sere y trust. protective of nasa, of their husbands even if they were later after their husbands back from the moon divorced because astronauts and their wives did divorce after the apollo program and i see it as a casua

we had just bought this grade art book, photo book of the moon landings with the norman mailer text of the fire on the moon and i was looking at these pictures of neil armstrong on the lunar surface, as aldrin and his marshmallow space suit and just having sort of a tomboy moment i guess. these are pretty male heroic images and suddenly i would turn the page and i just hit with this burst of color group of mr. wives and their pastel mini-dresses with these skyrocketing beehives. i turn to tom my husband and i just said wow, look at these wives. this is incredible. i never thought about this whole other side of the space program so the emotional side of the space race and wouldn't this be a fantastic book? it just sort of took off from there and minutes later i was on google looking up where these women were today. were they alive as most still were and i found out incredibly that they had this club, this sort of sorority that continues to me to this day. they go on cruises and continue to support each other through triumph and tragedy. one of the sweet things about the connection of th

but you know there have been very few norman mailer's. there have been very few people who are even interested in that example in that sort of thing. people say oh very nice but is still a realm minority so that is what i would say. as for foreign lands, a friend of mine who lived in communism said the great thing about living under communist and you knew the news was lying to you all the time. the problem living here is you kind of don't know. some of it's true in some of it's not. how do you tell? used to be so simple. you used to know that you couldn't trust it and that has become kind of a truth. i don't want to say that all news is bad at all times are terrible, don't get me wrong. does wonderful things things. every day at those wonderful wonderful things but it also leaves out a lot of things. in a way its very success is a harbinger because once you start to trust something to much you are in danger. there is lots to be grateful for. don't get me wrong. absolutely. what we have in this country and other developed countries are thi

used to wear pulitzer dresses, we just bought this big soda book of the moon landings with the norman mailer text of a fire on the moon. and i was looking through these pictures of neil armstrong on the lunar surface, buzz aldrin and his sort of marshmallow space suit and just having sort of a tomboy moment because these are pretty male heroic images, until i turn a page and i am hit with this burst of color. .. and a sort of continue to support each other through triumph and tragedy. one of the sweetest things about the connection of the wives is many of them when i met them they wore a little gold bracelets with a tiny golden whistle on it and that's one of their symbols we will be there for you and it was a matter of winning over these women's trust. they were always very protective of nasa, of their husbands even if they were later after their husbands back from the moon divorced because astronauts and their wives did divorce after the apollo program and i see it as a casualty of the incredible amount of pressure that was on these families to come for them and tform andto just work aroun

it was norman mailer's opus about the apollo 11 landings, so i was just enjoying looking at pictures of neil armstrong planting the flag in on the lunr surface and buzz aldrin and this spacey, you know, white marshmallow suit from the 1960s. and i turned a page, and all of a sudden i saw women wearing dresses the color that i'm now wearing, you know, these sherbet covers mini dresses and these skyrocketing beehives, and they were clustered around in this model of the moon that was probably made out of plaster of paris. and i just turned to my husband, and we were in a huge mad men kick at the time. i said has anything ever been done about the astro wyomings as they were called in headlines, and it just took off from there. i just became absolutely obsessed with their story. the restaurants were engineers, and they were so tight-lipped and unemotional, even back in the day journallests would always want to know from neil and buzz and all the guys who landed on the moon what did it feel like, what did you dream about when you were up there, and the guys would start spouting numbers and

stephen jimenez is an award-winning writer and producer. 2012 norman mailer nonfiction fellow and has written and produced programs for abc news, 2020, dan rather reports, nova, fox, court tv and others. his accolades include the western guild of america reward, i'm sorry -- as bishop of bible is the here. monger said the word for us to caitiff reporting and ambient fellowships of view across the nation in wyoming. a graduate of georgetown university just a screenwriting at new york university's tisch school of the arts and other colleges. he lives in new york and santa fe. steve, thanks for putting on a park and coming out visiting us deepening. [applause] >> thank you. thank you, good evening. it's really a pleasure to be here in laramie again because i just went on a very long and wild journey but i never expected, you know, what happened. i would like to do first, and wintry day couple excerpts from the book, the first i would like to sell you a little bit about how i came to this story. obviously when this crime happened i was as horrified by everyone around the country about the

so we'd just bought this big art book, photo book of the moon landings with the norman mailer text offire on the moon. and i was looking through all of these pictures of neil armstrong on the lunar surface buzz aldrin in his sort of marshmallow space suit and just having sort of a tomboy moment, i guess. because these are pretty, you know male heroic images. and suddenly i turn a page, and i'm just hit with this burst of color, sherbet-colored, a group of astro-wives in their pastel mini dresses with these skyrocketing beehives. and i turned to tom my husband, and i just said, wow, look at these wives. this is incredible. i never really thought about this whole other side of the space program, sort of the emotional side of the spas race. space race. and wouldn't this be a fantastic book? and it just sort of took off from there. and literally minutes later i was on google looking up where these women were today, you know were they alive? yes, most still were. and i found out incredibly that they have this club this sort of sorority that continues to meet to this day. they go on cruises

he was a norman mailer nonfiction fellow and is written and produced programs for abc news 2020 and rather reports nova fox court tv and others. his accolades include the western guild of american award, i'm sorry, i've got to put my eyeballs on here. mongers an award for investigative reporting, an enemy and fellowships at the across foundation and wyoming. a graduate of georgetown university he has taught screenwriting and new york universities to school. he lives in new york and santa fe. steve thanks for putting on a parka and coming out and visiting us this evening. [applause] >> thank you, thank you good evening and it's really a pleasure to be here in laramie again because i just went on a very long and wild journey that i never expect good would happen. what i would like to do first, and going to read a couple of excerpts from the book, short experts -- excerpts bits first i would like to tell you how i came to the story. obviously when this crime happened i was as horrified by everyone around the country about the brutality, the horrible violence that was committed but it really w