mister baron published with norman mailer and according to the late novelist and former editor-in-chief, the perfect publisher. and backed us in every crazy thing we would do. publishing news and all the past programs anytime, booktv.org. >> we are here to hear from doctor raymond arsenault, the southern history professor at the university of south florida in st. petersburg including freedom writers 1961 for racial justice, the best book of 2003 for the washington post, and doctor mia bay, to tell the truth freely, the wife of rw wells, white image in black minds, among her books, the jeanette p nichols professor of american history at the university of pennsylvania. please join me in welcoming mia bay and raymond arsenault, them up on screen. >> welcome, so great to have you this evening. we want you to take the show away and enjoy the conversation, thanks for seeing you. >> thank you, jennifer, thanks to the mark twain housing museum. i actually read mia bay's new book and manuscript. it was extraordinary then but to see it in hardcover with a beautiful cover is even more exciting, an